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02-28-2024, 12:17 PM
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wow, thanks .... that looks alot different than the motor shown in this video
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02-28-2024, 12:18 PM
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Long distance travel in EVs are still a ways off. At 3/gallon for gas and $15/charge for electricity, a cross country trip is actually cheaper with gas AND saves significant time over EVs. Other than the climate BS, there is no real advantage to EVs. Up front cost is higher with EVs. Ongoing cost of fuel is higher in EVs. Replacement parts (battery) is significantly more in EVs. Time to fuel up is significantly more in EVs.
Not seeing it.
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02-28-2024, 12:19 PM
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Not a valid comparison.
Them flyin' machines had only technology to over come.
EV's need a MASSIVE infrastruvture IN PLACE.
That will not happen in our lifetime.
We do not have the capacity to support the electricit demands we have today
let alone adding chargers.
And cost will not come down without nolume, which is already being cutback.
Auto workers understand we NEED to continue using oil based energy.
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Didn't Biden set aside BILLIONS for new charger locations in the green new deal bill?
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02-28-2024, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
That’s some auto worker who thinks electric cars don’t need engines.
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That link shows a stock photo of a Nissan Leaf ENGINE.
The tell?
It has an exhaust manifold. (Internal Combustion Engines that burn fuel have them.)
Found a used Tesla electric MOTOR on EBay. You can see what those look like here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/26596305382...xoCzzQQAvD_BwE
No exhaust manifold.
Here's a thought:
All of the EV owners I know (almost all of them own Teslas) just about never call it an ENGINE.
They call it a MOTOR.
If I had to hazard a guess I'd say the guy in the video from the original post at the top of this thread is talking about Internal Combustion Engines made by workers at factories in Michigan, USA.
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02-28-2024, 12:43 PM
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No, it won’t. Michigan will be called for Biden within two hours of the last poll closing. The thirteen percent that voted non committed are not going to vote for Trump. Nor will they stay home.
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I guess you missed the interview where the Prez of the UAW stated his autoworkers are going to vote for Trump?
I don’t think Trump can overcome the fixed election apparatus employed by the Dems, but it could be interesting
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02-28-2024, 12:46 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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02-28-2024, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
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Got a better link without a pay wall or sign up? That stock photo is not of what is being sold. That is a fuel injected internal combustion engine, the only thing electrical on it is the alternator. I give you credit, you did pull a gotcha this time and it wasn't misinformation, bravo. It looks like "electric engine" is the term for some specific hybrid configurations. I would like to see some concept drawings and technical information the place I found had small drawings and wanted a sign up to see the larger ones.
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02-28-2024, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff P
That link shows a stock photo of a Nissan Leaf ENGINE.
The tell?
It has an exhaust manifold. (Internal Combustion Engines that burn fuel have them.)
Found a used Tesla electric MOTOR on EBay. You can see what those look like here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/26596305382...xoCzzQQAvD_BwE
No exhaust manifold.
Here's a thought:
All of the EV owners I know (almost all of them own Teslas) just about never call it an ENGINE.
They call it a MOTOR.
If I had to hazard a guess I'd say the guy in the video from the original post at the top of this thread is talking about Internal Combustion Engines made by workers at factories in Michigan, USA.
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From what I see from a little Goggling, the EV motor is not called an electric engine, the term is used to refer to hybrid power plants. I had never heard it used before. I think people that use inaccurate stock photos
should be taken out and shot. MSN has no original content, but they lead the league in posting articles that mislead, flat out lie and are full of mistakes. They had an article on poisonous snakes, yet posted stock photos of harmless ones. If a person wants to get dumber, liberal propaganda leader MSN is a good place to start. The censorship on comments is also over the top. I go there to check e-mail, weather and point out all the mistakes in the articles. I also enjoy all the articles they post bashing white people. I must say I hate no organization more than Microsoft.
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02-28-2024, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff P
All of the EV owners I know (almost all of them own Teslas) just about never call it an ENGINE.
They call it a MOTOR.
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I think they're correct. Automotive engineers refer to electric motors and internal combustion engines.
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02-28-2024, 05:37 PM
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I think they're correct. Automotive engineers refer to electric motors and internal combustion engines.
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By definition and I believe it goes way back an internal combustion engine can be referred to as a motor. Remember the term rat motor? People called big blocks that back when I was first wrenching on cars 50 years ago.
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02-28-2024, 06:02 PM
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The vast majority of US citizens will NEVER go EV, especially at today's low-level of functionality, high price, high setup fee (charging station in your house...lulz)...and just overall absurdity compared to traditional engines.
Unless of course, the gov't FORCES us to go EV...which they will have to, eventually...
And they call Trump the fascist
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02-28-2024, 06:33 PM
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Just for the hell of it, I looked up charging stations in my area as I rarely see them. It does look like they are developing faster commercial ones but I have read right now the cars will not accept them. So I Google and it lists a huge amount of stations and the size chargers they have. The biggest now is 350kw, the smallest ones most of the charging stations have is 50kw.
So on a list it will show a location. Then something like this:
50kw 5-0
100kw 3-0
350kw 2-0
I saw one address and I was like, wait a minute there is no charging station in that area. I took a while of searching but I finally solved the mystery. Those numbers like 5-0, the first one is the number that is proposed the last the actual number in service. Most all the charging stations I found listed had no working chargers.
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03-01-2024, 02:30 AM
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I guess you missed the interview where the Prez of the UAW stated his autoworkers are going to vote for Trump?
I don’t think Trump can overcome the fixed election apparatus employed by the Dems, but it could be interesting
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Yeah, I missed that. But I didn’t miss this.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/24/uaw-...-election.html
United Auto Workers union endorses President Joe Biden for reelection over Trump.
Someone is making things up and it isn’t me.
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03-01-2024, 02:31 AM
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I think they're correct. Automotive engineers refer to electric motors and internal combustion engines.
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You’re right, but the average person uses the terms interchangeably.
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03-01-2024, 07:22 AM
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do you FEEL that if union leadership endorses candidate A, all union members will vote candidate A?
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