Epidemiologist: Why Lockdowns Are The Wrong Policy

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by hcap

Simple. Sorry you are arithmetic challened.

Age of Coronavirus Deaths
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/

Do the math.

why are you limiting these numbers to new york city, please provide national which is what most of us are living with.

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by fast4522

Wear a mask or not wear a mask, might not be the question to ask.

In review is how to better act when faced with this again because it will be too costly to go it this way again. This was predicted over ten years ago and discounted until it happened. To me it is very likely a more deadly bird flu or some other variation will strike the world in our lifetime, will we handle it just as badly or will we learn from this event? It is very obvious to me that we have to destroy China, be ready for the next event, then sell those communist bastards masks for $8 each.

You can be sure that if Biden wins the presidency in November, both he and the corrupt Demo machine will never allow that to happen. China knows this, too.

[PaceAdvantage]

A normal person who reads:

"27.64% of the U.S population 64 and younger dies from covid-19."

would come away thinking 81 million people are dead from COVID-19.

What you actually mean to say is 27.64% of the fatalities from COVID-19 are age 64 and younger.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

You can be sure that if Biden wins the presidency in November, both he and the corrupt Demo machine will never allow that to happen. China knows this, too.

Jerry Nadler knows how to win better than Uncle Joe, at least he has a memory that works in the order needed.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

A normal person who reads:

"27.64% of the U.S population 64 and younger dies from covid-19."

would come away thinking 81 million people are dead from COVID-19.

What you actually mean to say is 27.64% of the fatalities from COVID-19 are age 64 and younger.

Did you see the number of deaths as of now I posted? As of now there are 52,948 deaths. Using 27.64% of that is......
14,635 people 64 and younger have died. And even if it is less and only 10,000 have died. You cannot ignore that.

And here is a graphic of hospitalizations, ICU admissions, and deaths by age group app 1 month. At least if not more hospitalizations among the younger less than 65 age groups. Should we ignore ICU admissions as well?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm
FIGURE 2. Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) hospitalizations,* intensive care unit (ICU) admissions,† and deaths,§ by age group — United States, February 12– March 16, 2020

[PaceAdvantage]

The last pandemic to hit the US (under Obama no less) saw the MAJORITY OF FATALITIES among the age group you are now waving around...and nobody cared enough to lock down anything...

If you're trying to say that some people under 64 are dying, why should that matter any more than people over 64 dying?

Yes, people die from diseases. This isn't a news flash.

The flu can kill 60,000 here and 600,000 worldwide and nobody bats an eye.

But COVID kills 53,000 here and 200,000 worldwide and it's time to go nuclear.

The real question you should be asking is why is it so bad here in the USA? 25% of the world's fatalities when it should be more near 10%?

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by hcap

Did you see the number of deaths as of now I posted? As of now there are 52,948 deaths. Using 27.64% of that is......
14,635 people 64 and younger have died. And even if it is less and only 10,000 have died. You cannot ignore that.

And here is a graphic of hospitalizations, ICU admissions, and deaths by age group app 1 month. At least if not more hospitalizations among the younger less than 65 age groups. Should we ignore ICU admissions as well?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm
FIGURE 2. Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) hospitalizations,* intensive care unit (ICU) admissions,† and deaths,§ by age group — United States, February 12– March 16, 2020

So what's your point? That everyone should be locked down? The group in question represents 84% of the population and accounts for 26% of the Covid 19 deaths. Of those deaths only 5% of those had no underlying condition. That means a healthy person in that group has a better chance of getting hit by lightening than dying from Covid 19.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by hcap

HOWS MUCH WOULD YOU LIKE TO BET?

27.64% of the U.S population 64 and younger dies from covid-19.

Bet that THIS is purely stupid?

MATH, hcap, NOT FOR YOU, DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME

[AndyC]

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/23/swe...ves-stay-flat/

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by AndyC

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/23/swe...ves-stay-flat/

I like this part:

What made it “riveting” was this: There is no crisis, no death spikes, no national emergency, no shortage of hospital beds. Listening to the press conference, (twice) and transcribing every word was like watching paint dry. And with each passing moment, the story became clearer and clearer to me:

Sweden can save the world right now.

Add no fear mongering to the above!

[thaskalos]

There is no need for Sweden to "save us"...IMO. Several states of our own are easing into an early "opening up of the economy". If the reports coming out of these states are positive...then things in this country will get better much quicker than expected. And if the reports coming out of those states are negative...then the positive Swedish feedback will be rendered irrelevant, as far as we are concerned.

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

There is no need for Sweden to "save us"...IMO. Several states of our own are easing into an early "opening up of the economy". If the reports coming out of these states are positive...then things in this country will get better much quicker than expected. And if the reports coming out of those states are negative...then the positive Swedish feedback will be rendered irrelevant, as far as we are concerned.

I guess it all comes down to the media and how they report the "facts".

One thing to take away from the Swedes is that closing schools served no useful purpose.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by AndyC

I guess it all comes down to the media and how they report the "facts".

One thing to take away from the Swedes is that closing schools served no useful purpose.

You can't "ease" into opening a school as you could in opening a restaurant. Even the few U.S. States that are opening up business-wise are doing so with certain distancing provisions in mind. How do you do that with a school? You can limit the number of customers...but can you do that with students?

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

You can't "ease" into opening a school as you could in opening a restaurant. Even the few U.S. States that are opening up business-wise are doing so with certain distancing provisions in mind. How do you do that with a school? You can limit the number of customers...but can you do that with students?

Why would you need to? Young people are 99.9% unaffected by the corona virus. There are several countries that have not closed schools and have not had any problems.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by AndyC

Why would you need to? Young people are 99.9% unaffected by the corona virus. There are several countries that have not closed schools and have not had any problems.

This looks to me like a parental decision, at this stage of the game. With the fear that is being played out on our streets...there is no telling what the public reaction would be if the schools were to suddenly open on Monday.