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07-30-2018, 11:05 PM
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Brown's Mdns @Turf @SAR with seconditis -- this season!!!
It seems Brown's Maidens on the Turf are suffering from acute seconditis as 10 of the last 32 have finished 2nd at Saratoga!!!
I would venture a guess the Exacta payouts are quite decent!!!
Anyone who back wheeled these Exactas probably had quite the payout as there were many singles!!!
Let's keep an eye on Brown's barn with Maidens on the Turf at the Spa!!!
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08-02-2018, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
It seems Brown's Maidens on the Turf are suffering from acute seconditis as 10 of the last 32 have finished 2nd at Saratoga!!!
I would venture a guess the Exacta payouts are quite decent!!!
Anyone who back wheeled these Exactas probably had quite the payout as there were many singles!!!
Let's keep an eye on Brown's barn with Maidens on the Turf at the Spa!!!
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Brown has these Maiden Special Weights on the Turf today at Saratoga
3rd race
#1 Frontier Market
#4 Hizeem
Let’s see if he can get these to the winners circle today at Saratoga!!!
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08-03-2018, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Brown has these Maiden Special Weights on the Turf today at Saratoga
3rd race
#1 Frontier Market
#4 Hizeem
Let’s see if he can get these to the winners circle today at Saratoga!!!
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Well #4 Hizeem and #1 Frontier Market came through for Brown yesterday paying $10.20 for the Exacta but hey we'll take it and #4 Hizeem got the win paying $5.30 not too shabby for a couple of favorites!!!
I was a little late with this one yesterday in posting!!!
Congratulations to those who saw the play and were able to make a profit!!!
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08-03-2018, 12:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Well #4 Hizeem and #1 Frontier Market came through for Brown yesterday paying $10.20 for the Exacta but hey we'll take it and #4 Hizeem got the win paying $5.30 not too shabby for a couple of favorites!!!
I was a little late with this one yesterday in posting!!!
Congratulations to those who saw the play and were able to make a profit!!!
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Brown has a Maiden on the Dirt today
5th race
#5 More Mischief
However, this will not qualify for the study since it is on the Dirt
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08-05-2018, 02:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Well #4 Hizeem and #1 Frontier Market came through for Brown yesterday paying $10.20 for the Exacta but hey we'll take it and #4 Hizeem got the win paying $5.30 not too shabby for a couple of favorites!!!
I was a little late with this one yesterday in posting!!!
Congratulations to those who saw the play and were able to make a profit!!!
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I missed #10 Gamblers Fallacy in the 2nd race on the Turf at Saratoga for Brown
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RowNum: Date: Race: PgmNum: Horse: RaceCond: Distance: Trainer: Odds: Surface
1 08-05-2018 2nd race 10 Gamblers Fallacy (NY) Maiden Special Weight One And One Sixteenth Miles C C Brown 5/2# Turf
2 08-05-2018 6th race 6 Seek and Destroy (KY) Maiden Special Weight One And One Sixteenth Miles C C Brown 3/1# Turf
3 08-05-2018 6th race 7 Dogtag (KY) Maiden Special Weight One And One Sixteenth Miles C C Brown 7/2# Turf
Let’s see if he can get the other 2 to hit the board today at a price at the Spa!!!
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08-07-2018, 01:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
I missed #10 Gamblers Fallacy in the 2nd race on the Turf at Saratoga for Brown
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RowNum: Date: Race: PgmNum: Horse: RaceCond: Distance: Trainer: Odds: Surface
1 08-05-2018 2nd race 10 Gamblers Fallacy (NY) Maiden Special Weight One And One Sixteenth Miles C C Brown 5/2# Turf
2 08-05-2018 6th race 6 Seek and Destroy (KY) Maiden Special Weight One And One Sixteenth Miles C C Brown 3/1# Turf
3 08-05-2018 6th race 7 Dogtag (KY) Maiden Special Weight One And One Sixteenth Miles C C Brown 7/2# Turf
Let’s see if he can get the other 2 to hit the board today at a price at the Spa!!!
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Brown won with #10 Gamblers Fallacy but that will not qualify for the study as the race was run on the Dirt as well as the 6th race
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08-07-2018, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Well #4 Hizeem and #1 Frontier Market came through for Brown yesterday paying $10.20 for the Exacta but hey we'll take it and #4 Hizeem got the win paying $5.30 not too shabby for a couple of favorites!!!
I was a little late with this one yesterday in posting!!!
Congratulations to those who saw the play and were able to make a profit!!!
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We missed another Brown over Brown Exacta yesterday with Maiden Special Weights on the Turf at Saratoga!!!
I'm not sure what the Exacta paid in the 4th but should have had it yesterday!!!
Congratulations to those who were paying attention, saw the play and were able to make a profit!!!
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08-08-2018, 09:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
We missed another Brown over Brown Exacta yesterday with Maiden Special Weights on the Turf at Saratoga!!!
I'm not sure what the Exacta paid in the 4th but should have had it yesterday!!!
Congratulations to those who were paying attention, saw the play and were able to make a profit!!!
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Mr. seconditis Brown has another Maiden Special Weight on the Turf at Saratoga today
5th race
#1 Crazy Life
Let’s see if he finishes 2nd with this one to complete the Exacta!!!
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08-18-2018, 09:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
It seems Brown's Maidens on the Turf are suffering from acute seconditis as 10 of the last 32 have finished 2nd at Saratoga!!!
I would venture a guess the Exacta payouts are quite decent!!!
Anyone who back wheeled these Exactas probably had quite the payout as there were many singles!!!
Let's keep an eye on Brown's barn with Maidens on the Turf at the Spa!!!
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These stats were for Belmont not Saratoga!!!
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08-20-2018, 09:40 AM
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This is Brown’s record with Maidens on the Turf at Saratoga:
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Row#: Date: Race: PgmNum: Horse: RaceCond: Distance: Trainer: ML Odds: TrackCond: WPS W$ P$ S$
1 07-20-2018 2nd race 4 Drynachan (NY) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 5/2# Turf Firm W 6.2 4.0 3.4
2 07-20-2018 4th race 4 Dominant Strategy (KY) Mdn Clm 1 1/16 M C C Brown 4/1# Turf Firm W 11.0 7.1 3.7
3 07-20-2018 4th race 6 Azzedine (FR) Mdn Clm 1 1/16 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Firm
4 07-21-2018 2nd race 8 Digital Footprint (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Firm P 3.2 2.5
5 07-22-2018 10th race 9 Competitionofideas (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Firm S 2.5
6 07-29-2018 5th race 4 Alternative Energy (FL) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 5/2# Turf Good S 2.5
7 07-29-2018 5th race 9 Halsey (KY) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 6/1# Turf Good
8 07-30-2018 6th race 9 Course Correction (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 3/8 M C C Brown 2/1# Turf Good P 3.7 2.2
9 08-01-2018 6th race 3 Corey Scores (NY) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 7/5# Turf Firm S 2.3
10 08-02-2018 3rd race 1A Frontier Market (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 M C C Brown 6/5# Turf Firm P 2.8 2.1
11 08-02-2018 3rd race 3 Hizeem (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Firm W 5.3 3.0 2.1
12 08-06-2018 4th race 5 Chiclets Dream (NY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Good P 2.7 2.5
13 08-06-2018 4th race 8 Chestnut Street (NY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 2/1# Turf Good W 4.5 2.6 2.3
14 08-08-2018 5th race 1 Crazy Life (NY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Firm
15 08-10-2018 5th race 3 Fierce Scarlett (FL) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 5/2# Turf Good
16 08-13-2018 4th race 5 Fog of War (KY) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 7/2# Turf Good W 6.8 4.3 3.1
17 08-15-2018 7th race 2 Kidoro (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 8/1# Turf Firm
18 08-15-2018 7th race 7 Civil Union (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 5/1# Turf Firm W 10.6 5.6 3.9
19 08-19-2018 3rd race 8 Alternative Energy (FL) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 3/1# Turf Yielding P 2.8 2.5
20 08-19-2018 5th race 1 Sister Kitten (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 6/1# Turf Yielding P 5.6 4.4
21 08-19-2018 5th race 5 Newspaperofrecord (IRE) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Yielding W 5.0 3.3 2.8
Starts 1st 2nds 3rds Win % Win $ Cost Return % Return
C C Brown 21 7 6 3 33.3% $49.4 $42 $7.4 17%
WPS % WPS $ Cost Return % Return Shw $
76.1% $144.9 $126 $18.9 14% 44.8
13 of 21 have finished no worse than 2nd
He has this in the 4th race today at Saratoga
4th race
#10 Miss Hanna Jo
Let’s see if he can get this one to hit the board today at a price at Saratoga!!!
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08-20-2018, 11:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
This is Brown’s record with Maidens on the Turf at Saratoga:
Code:
Row#: Date: Race: PgmNum: Horse: RaceCond: Distance: Trainer: ML Odds: TrackCond: WPS W$ P$ S$
1 07-20-2018 2nd race 4 Drynachan (NY) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 5/2# Turf Firm W 6.2 4.0 3.4
2 07-20-2018 4th race 4 Dominant Strategy (KY) Mdn Clm 1 1/16 M C C Brown 4/1# Turf Firm W 11.0 7.1 3.7
3 07-20-2018 4th race 6 Azzedine (FR) Mdn Clm 1 1/16 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Firm
4 07-21-2018 2nd race 8 Digital Footprint (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Firm P 3.2 2.5
5 07-22-2018 10th race 9 Competitionofideas (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Firm S 2.5
6 07-29-2018 5th race 4 Alternative Energy (FL) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 5/2# Turf Good S 2.5
7 07-29-2018 5th race 9 Halsey (KY) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 6/1# Turf Good
8 07-30-2018 6th race 9 Course Correction (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 3/8 M C C Brown 2/1# Turf Good P 3.7 2.2
9 08-01-2018 6th race 3 Corey Scores (NY) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 7/5# Turf Firm S 2.3
10 08-02-2018 3rd race 1A Frontier Market (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 M C C Brown 6/5# Turf Firm P 2.8 2.1
11 08-02-2018 3rd race 3 Hizeem (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Firm W 5.3 3.0 2.1
12 08-06-2018 4th race 5 Chiclets Dream (NY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Good P 2.7 2.5
13 08-06-2018 4th race 8 Chestnut Street (NY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 2/1# Turf Good W 4.5 2.6 2.3
14 08-08-2018 5th race 1 Crazy Life (NY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Firm
15 08-10-2018 5th race 3 Fierce Scarlett (FL) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 5/2# Turf Good
16 08-13-2018 4th race 5 Fog of War (KY) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 7/2# Turf Good W 6.8 4.3 3.1
17 08-15-2018 7th race 2 Kidoro (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 8/1# Turf Firm
18 08-15-2018 7th race 7 Civil Union (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 5/1# Turf Firm W 10.6 5.6 3.9
19 08-19-2018 3rd race 8 Alternative Energy (FL) Mdn Spcl 5.5 Furl C C Brown 3/1# Turf Yielding P 2.8 2.5
20 08-19-2018 5th race 1 Sister Kitten (KY) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 6/1# Turf Yielding P 5.6 4.4
21 08-19-2018 5th race 5 Newspaperofrecord (IRE) Mdn Spcl 1 1/16 M C C Brown 5/2# Turf Yielding W 5.0 3.3 2.8
Starts 1st 2nds 3rds Win % Win $ Cost Return % Return
C C Brown 21 7 6 3 33.3% $49.4 $42 $7.4 17%
WPS % WPS $ Cost Return % Return Shw $
76.1% $144.9 $126 $18.9 14% 44.8
13 of 21 have finished no worse than 2nd
He has this in the 4th race today at Saratoga
4th race
#10 Miss Hanna Jo
Let’s see if he can get this one to hit the board today at a price at Saratoga!!!
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Brown disappointed us today as #10 Miss Hanna Jo finished off the board in the 4th race today!!!
Let's however, continue to watch his barn in this situation!!
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08-21-2018, 02:24 AM
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i know that if you have been playing either C Brown or Pletcher during this meet you are close to being busted out. both trainers have been sending out 2 year olds that aren't breaking out of the gate like normal horses. Mark Casse did the same thing last year.
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08-21-2018, 10:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
i know that if you have been playing either C Brown or Pletcher during this meet you are close to being busted out. both trainers have been sending out 2 year olds that aren't breaking out of the gate like normal horses. Mark Casse did the same thing last year.
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Yes, I believe overall you are losing money investing in Brown and Pletcher at Saratoga. However, for Brown you might be getting a small profit from Brown’s Maidens on the Turf at Saratoga
I will have those totals in another post
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08-21-2018, 10:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
i know that if you have been playing either C Brown or Pletcher during this meet you are close to being busted out. both trainers have been sending out 2 year olds that aren't breaking out of the gate like normal horses. Mark Casse did the same thing last year.
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You are getting a 5% return on your money per $2 win wager on all of Brown’s horses as of today.
I will have his returns for Maiden races in another post
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08-21-2018, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
i know that if you have been playing either C Brown or Pletcher during this meet you are close to being busted out. both trainers have been sending out 2 year olds that aren't breaking out of the gate like normal horses. Mark Casse did the same thing last year.
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Hey Lambo
You're getting a 5% return per $2 win wager on Brown's horses overall since the season opened at Saratoga
I will have his returns for Maiden races on the Turf later but they are at 12% per $2 win wager
It looks like you have to play his horses in Exactas in this situation otherwise you won't get much of a return for win or place
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