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Old 01-22-2018, 08:41 PM   #16
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1:44 and change for 1 Mile?...
1:28 and change for 7F?...
1:23 and change for 6.5F?...
1:14 and change for 6F?...

All on a track labeled fast.

Are you suggesting those times may have been produced by a track surface that was something other than fast?



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Old 01-22-2018, 08:55 PM   #17
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when horses run on turf they all run with queens plates, on the dirt they run with toe grabs. when you make the move like that, a bettor is now betting on the blacksmith instead of the horse.
So when a race comes off the turf are you suggesting the remaining entrants all have their shoes changed the day of the race? Or are queens plates OK to handle the dirt/mud as well?
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:10 PM   #18
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when horses run on turf they all run with queens plates, on the dirt they run with toe grabs. when you make the move like that, a bettor is now betting on the blacksmith instead of the horse.
Plenty of trainers shoe their horses the morning of a race. I don't think it's that big of a deal.
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:43 PM   #19
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wow, i must admit i have never heard of a race coming off the dirt and going to the turf. that one is quite a head-scratcher.
Many years ago it happened at Hollywood Park. If I remember correctly something caused the sprinklers to not shut off overnight and the dirt track was flooded and not usable, so they moved the entire card to the turf.
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:19 AM   #20
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Mahoning's first race was a 6 furlong event, with zero minutes to post they changed it to 5 1/2.
The chute was a quagmire. The truck driving the starting gate was having trouble placing the gate properly due to the deep mud. The track had finally thawed after 12 long days of frozen tundra. 6 of the 10 races today are carded for 6 furlongs. Rain and possible snow later is in the forecast. So it could happen again today at some time. Stay tuned.

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