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09-21-2012, 05:26 PM
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Romney the Idiot, in his own words
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09-21-2012, 06:00 PM
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Do you hold the president to the standards he set for himself? If you do, then he is a failure and deserves to be defeated.
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09-21-2012, 07:28 PM
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Stevie, you can't handle the truth.
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09-22-2012, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Stevie, you can't handle the truth.
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You've got that wrong. I guess you're unaware of my position, stated several times on this forum, that I consider Obama the worst president in my (long) lifetime, but not because he's a socialist (which, as a socialist, I can assure you he's not) or a Muslim (which he's not) or not legally qualified for the presidency (which he is). He's the worst because he is a mass-murdering war criminal and the greatest threat to civil liberties ever to hold office in the White House. That said, Mitt Romney is still an idiot, and if you don't think his own words confirm it, then you're way too "liberal" in your evaluation of his intellectual capabilities.
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09-22-2012, 01:01 PM
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09-22-2012, 01:05 PM
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First problem...Mitt Romney never said those exact words...
Thus, I'm not going to believe that anyone else said those replies to Mitt either...
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09-22-2012, 01:47 PM
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09-22-2012, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
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Almost. There is one who is even less interesting.
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65 lies ??
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09-22-2012, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
First problem...Mitt Romney never said those exact words...
Thus, I'm not going to believe that anyone else said those replies to Mitt either...
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Nor are those words shown in quotes. So it's not a direct quotation but the content is absolutely correct.
These are the actual words:
" There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
So he is claiming that 47% of Americans pay no income tax, which essentially is true although the number is really 46.4%. By claiming he'll never convince "those people" to take personal responsibility he is clearly stating that they don't.
But you do know, don't you, that the responses to the unquoted comment were intended only to represent the demographic range of the people under his umbrella of self-proclaimed "victims" and government leeches? But to me the clincher of his idiocy is the denial that people are entitled to things like health care, food or housing. That's objectivist crap to the max. I'll go one step further. Angry mobs rising up and killing those who would deny them health care, food or housing they are justified because the instinct for survival preempts the infantile and biologically insane faux philosophy of objectivism. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating mass violence, but if someone threatens my and my family's very survival by denying me food because I can't pay, I will take theirs by any means possible - and so would you. Biology is one hell of a behavioral driver.
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09-22-2012, 05:08 PM
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You are why we have the second amendment.
You are ready to kill for food, but not give up your cable TV or your internet, or go out and get a job that might require work or be beneath you.
One you give all the luxuries and have cleaned toilets, if you are still hungry, I'll give you a sandwich.
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09-22-2012, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
You are why we have the second amendment.
You are ready to kill for food, but not give up your cable TV or your internet, or go out and get a job that might require work or be beneath you.
One you give all the luxuries and have cleaned toilets, if you are still hungry, I'll give you a sandwich.
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That's quite an (il)logical leap, but not unexpected from you.
If you had any sense of history you would have seen the connection between what I was writing about and what the French people did in 1789 and the Russian people in 1917. When human beings are desperate to survive they will do what it takes. Don't think it couldn't happen in the U.S. if pricks like Romney, Obama and all the other other bitches of the oligarchy remain in power. Not only could it happen. I think it will. History is littered with examples of the rich being slaughtered by the poor when the wealth and power gap becomes intolerable. And since the U.S. is essentially an "elected" monarchy with the monarch being pre-selected by the oligarchs, you guys are on the road to revolution unless there is a change in values and culture (and I use those words loosely when it comes to the U.S.).
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09-22-2012, 06:39 PM
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So what, you don't like tuna fish?
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09-22-2012, 06:56 PM
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Ex-con, Con Conrad Black has a couple of great comments about Mittens, in one of his normal jeremiads, today:
"And now, in an astounding demonstration of national fecklessness, a failed president is running slightly ahead in the polls of a challenger who has a real CV, unlike recent presidents, but who is so politically oafish and plastic, he makes Elmer Fudd seem charismatic."
"The fact that Willard M. Romney is still running almost even in the polls despite his demiurgic implausibility as a candidate, afflicted by a one-person pandemic of foot-in-mouth disease, illustrates the concern of the American voters."
One thing, the old, curmudgeon, troglodyte, 1%er can do, is put the pedal to the medal with prose!
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...ican-disaster/
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09-22-2012, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve R
So he is claiming that 47% of Americans pay no income tax, which essentially is true although the number is really 46.4%. By claiming he'll never convince "those people" to take personal responsibility he is clearly stating that they don't.
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Actually, as I stated in another thread, I read Romney's comments to mean a certain SEGMENT of that 47% who pay no income taxes also take NO personal responsibility (which is true, as I'm sure you would agree). You and others choose to interpret his words in a different fashion. That's fine.
I give him the benefit of the doubt, knowing he is a successful, intelligent, highly educated individual. Thus I know he doesn't believe that the ENTIRE 47% DO NOT take personal responsibility for their lives. The words that came out of his mouth that evening might make it APPEAR otherwise, but I'm sure if given the chance he would choose his words more carefully to convey the EXACT meaning if he knew his comments were going out to a wider audience...he didn't think he was being quoted or recorded, so he wasn't careful with his words...
See, that's the crux of this entire silly debate. There are actually people (like you, apparently) who believe that Romney sees that entire 47% as lacking personal responsibility and therefore they look to the gov't to help them at every turn. I refuse to believe Romney truly believes such nonsense. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 09-22-2012 at 07:19 PM.
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09-22-2012, 08:08 PM
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I take comfort in the idea that Mitt Romney speaks like a regular guy rather than a scripted teleprompter con artist. As a bonus I am delighted in the fact that Canadians dread the thought that Mitt Romney can win this election. And even if he said that he does not care if he hurts the feeling of the 47% who would not vote for him, that is cool beans for me.
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