Biden to Israel: Drop Dead

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Why should I care if the Israelis and the Palestinians are "living in fear"? They have both made their beds...and now they have to lay in them.

The Israelis are ending this living in fear that has been too long, it will be at the expense of the Palestinians who are responsible for not living to let live. You can go and wash their bones for all we care, more text from you is expected but in reality outside the few of the PA community your pushing keys for nothing.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Hamas must be eliminated.
There are limits, however, in how that can be achieved.
Israel - you must either adhere to humanitarian guidelines,
or be prepared for your warlords to be brought to The Hague to stand trial.

You agree Hamas must be eliminated. But how would you do it? Urban guerrlla warfare will get a lot of Israeli soldiers killed and will drag out the war, which will prolong the suffering for civilians. Where is the outrage towards the neighboring countries? Egypt could let Palestinians in until its over but they won't. Why not?

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by xtb

You agree Hamas must be eliminated. But how would you do it? Urban guerrlla warfare will get a lot of Israeli soldiers killed and will drag out the war, which will prolong the suffering for civilians. Where is the outrage towards the neighboring countries? Egypt could let Palestinians in until its over but they won't. Why not?

IDF, as everyone knows, are among the best trained military in the world.
Yet, after months of infiltration into Gaza, they can't take care of Hamas?
That has to be more about Hamas' ability to hide than anything else.

In the meantime, innocent Palestinians and those trying to assist them,
are being bombed into oblivion. I agree that Egypt should be doing more
to take in refugees. But Israel has a duty as a civilized, democratic, nation
to do the right thing and not behave like terrorists. The best option they
have is to get their remaining hostages back safely, then work on eliminating
Hamas down the road. They are more than capable of achieving that.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

IDF, as everyone knows, are among the best trained military in the world.
Yet, after months of infiltration into Gaza, they can't take care of Hamas?
That has to be more about Hamas' ability to hide than anything else.

In the meantime, innocent Palestinians and those trying to assist them,
are being bombed into oblivion. I agree that Egypt should be doing more
to take in refugees. But Israel has a duty as a civilized, democratic, nation
to do the right thing and not behave like terrorists. The best option they
have is to get their remaining hostages back safely, then work on eliminating
Hamas down the road. They are more than capable of achieving that.

There are no innocent Palestinians who are not civilized in the least bit. Egypt knows better to let vermin into its country to act up and disrupt. Hostages back safely is a dream, very easy to bargain dead people and pretend that they are still alive. Tell us your not as stupid as your icon suggests.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by fast4522

The Israelis are ending this living in fear that has been too long, it will be at the expense of the Palestinians who are responsible for not living to let live. You can go and wash their bones for all we care, more text from you is expected but in reality outside the few of the PA community your pushing keys for nothing.

Shucks! And here I am "pushing keys", trying to win a paceadvantage popularity contest.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

IDF, as everyone knows, are among the best trained military in the world.
Yet, after months of infiltration into Gaza, they can't take care of Hamas?
That has to be more about Hamas' ability to hide than anything else.

In the meantime, innocent Palestinians and those trying to assist them,
are being bombed into oblivion. I agree that Egypt should be doing more
to take in refugees. But Israel has a duty as a civilized, democratic, nation
to do the right thing and not behave like terrorists. The best option they
have is to get their remaining hostages back safely, then work on eliminating
Hamas down the road. They are more than capable of achieving that.

Hamas has turned down 8 hostage deals

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

IDF, as everyone knows, are among the best trained military in the world.
Yet, after months of infiltration into Gaza, they can't take care of Hamas?
That has to be more about Hamas' ability to hide than anything else.

In the meantime, innocent Palestinians and those trying to assist them,
are being bombed into oblivion. I agree that Egypt should be doing more
to take in refugees. But Israel has a duty as a civilized, democratic, nation
to do the right thing and not behave like terrorists. The best option they
have is to get their remaining hostages back safely, then work on eliminating
Hamas down the road. They are more than capable of achieving that.

We've seen time and time again how the supposedly "best" militaries in the world get bogged down in shitholes like Gaza, Afghanistan (US & RUSSIA), Vietnam, Ukraine...I could go on...

One main reason is terrain. The other main reason is tap dancing around "civilians."

Maybe Israel will eventually figure out what nobody else could.

In this kind of war, there is no gentle.

The US gave zero fucks in WW2 when it came to Japan. The British (and the USA) gave zero fucks when it came to Germany.

That's how that war was won.

The Israelis are giving zero fucks now. Maybe it will work too.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Shucks! And here I am "pushing keys", trying to win a paceadvantage popularity contest.

You were equally effective years ago in the Donald Trump thread when there was twice or greater viewing. You was pushing keys without success then, so it is your love to post again makes you the winner of the popularity contest.

[Tom]

Hamas was elected by palestinians to reresent them.

palestinians = hamas.

There are no innicens.

HAMAS could end it all today and spare more deaths.
But they don't care.

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by Tom

Hamas was elected by palestinians to reresent them.

palestinians = hamas.

There are no innicens.

HAMAS could end it all today and spare more deaths.
But they don't care.

That's exactly right. Today only happens because of what Hamas did on 10/7/23. Israel needs to exact a heavy price so that these barbarians understand the cost the next time they think about doing something.

[davew]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

IDF, as everyone knows, are among the best trained military in the world.
Yet, after months of infiltration into Gaza, they can't take care of Hamas?
That has to be more about Hamas' ability to hide than anything else.

In the meantime, innocent Palestinians and those trying to assist them,
are being bombed into oblivion. I agree that Egypt should be doing more
to take in refugees. But Israel has a duty as a civilized, democratic, nation
to do the right thing and not behave like terrorists. The best option they
have is to get their remaining hostages back safely, then work on eliminating
Hamas down the road. They are more than capable of achieving that.

They all look the same. Do you think the Hamas are wearing uniforms that say SHOOT ME ????

They have offices in hospitals, are living with their wives and kids, and carry on like the other 2 million people in Gaza.

How easy do you FEEL it would be to find them all?

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by davew

How easy do you FEEL it would be to find them all?

Not easy. Is the clock ticking to accomplish this?

Killing women and children, including starving them to death,
has no place in this world. Period. Israel needs to do better.

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by fast4522

There are no innocent Palestinians who are not civilized in the least bit. Egypt knows better to let vermin into its country to act up and disrupt. Hostages back safely is a dream, very easy to bargain dead people and pretend that they are still alive. Tell us your not as stupid as your icon suggests.

This is an outright lie.
Sad reflection of who you are as a person, and what you happen to believe.
Infant children born into poor circumstances are vermin? How pathetic.

How quick you are to defend embryos when it suits you,
yet those who don't meet your racial and social criteria
should be eliminated without a question being asked.

The hostages may well be dead, already.
Due, in no small part, to persons such as you.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

This is an outright lie.
Sad reflection of who you are as a person, and what you happen to believe.
Infant children born into poor circumstances are vermin? How pathetic.

How quick you are to defend embryos when it suits you,
yet those who don't meet your racial and social criteria
should be eliminated without a question being asked.

The hostages may well be dead, already.
Due, in no small part, to persons such as you.

Hey...the Palestinians are all TERRORISTS...and the Israelis are all COMMANDOS!

REMEMBER THAT!!

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Hey...the Palestinians are all TERRORISTS...and the Israelis are all COMMANDOS!

REMEMBER THAT!!

I bet if you take away govts and terror organizations, the two groups would get along just fine. The average person just wants peace with their neighbors.