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03-26-2016, 11:38 AM
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Aqueduct the East Coast Golden Gate
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03-26-2016, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by porchy44
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55 Horses in 9 races
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03-26-2016, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Prytanis
55 Horses in 9 races
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Wonder where all the Cali horses are--they aren't at GGF...and many days they can be scarce @ SA. Hollywood Park and Bay Meadows are gone--what the hell?
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03-26-2016, 12:59 PM
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Santa Anita not much better, and this is what we get on a Saturday. Still way too much racing for the current horse population.
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03-26-2016, 01:07 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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California should do what they used to in Ohio, half the card from SA and half from GG.
They could have 10 races a day and not over-use either track.
NY? Most east coast tracks are not even open yet.
I understand Belmont only washed the saddle cloths numbers 1-5 for this season?
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03-26-2016, 02:13 PM
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Was gonna play Aqueduct today but looked at those 4 horse yawners and looked elsewhere instead.
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03-26-2016, 03:12 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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I'm looking at a race at Laurel, and it looks like a John Wayne movie - whole screen full of horses like the cavalry.
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Last edited by Tom; 03-26-2016 at 03:15 PM.
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03-26-2016, 03:15 PM
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Not to worry people EVD will be up and running in about 11 days April 6th. Home of the biggest fields.
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03-26-2016, 04:50 PM
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This happens almost every year during this "transition" period into the spring.
Once the horse start coming in from Gulfstream and elsewhere, things get better at the big "A"
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03-26-2016, 10:16 PM
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I still cannot fathom as to why the fields in So cal are so short. GG is not in the same league.
NYRA is almost as bad. I bet once Belmont opens there will be more short fields. it happened last spring as well.
I took three days at random.
In all fairness I used One weekday, one Saturday and one Sunday..
So I picked Fri May 1 Thru Sunday May 3 of 2015..
Keep in mind May 2nd was Derby Day..Oh, no rain and no races off the turf....
Friday May 1st....68 (7.55 per race) horses entered. 58( 6.44) went to post
Saturday 5/12, 12 races.....109 entered (9.08) 93 went to post( 7.75) Note. On this day there were two turf races where the entry box was full ( 16 entered, 12 went)
Sunday 5/3, 9 races.....73 entered( 8.11) 67 ( 7.44) started...
The all sources handle for 5/1 was $9 million
for 5/2 it was $13.4 million...Three graded stakes on the card. The Westchester( Palice Malice scratched, Tonalist won) The Sheepshead Bay( 5 entered 5 went) and the Fort Marcy
Sunday 5/3 handle was 9.5 Million....
I then took an April weekend 2015 from AQU and the fields were definitely shorter.
This was again a Friday-Sunday deal....The main track and turf courses were in use. Again, no rain to wipe out any turf races.
Friday 4/16...8 races....49 went to post avg 6.12 per race
Sat 4/17...9 races 61 started 6.77
Sunday 4/18 9 races...55 starters 6.11
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03-27-2016, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by thespaah
I still cannot fathom as to why the fields in So cal are so short. GG is not in the same league.
NYRA is almost as bad. I bet once Belmont opens there will be more short fields. it happened last spring as well.
I took three days at random.
In all fairness I used One weekday, one Saturday and one Sunday..
So I picked Fri May 1 Thru Sunday May 3 of 2015..
Keep in mind May 2nd was Derby Day..Oh, no rain and no races off the turf....
Friday May 1st....68 (7.55 per race) horses entered. 58( 6.44) went to post
Saturday 5/12, 12 races.....109 entered (9.08) 93 went to post( 7.75) Note. On this day there were two turf races where the entry box was full ( 16 entered, 12 went)
Sunday 5/3, 9 races.....73 entered( 8.11) 67 ( 7.44) started...
The all sources handle for 5/1 was $9 million
for 5/2 it was $13.4 million...Three graded stakes on the card. The Westchester( Palice Malice scratched, Tonalist won) The Sheepshead Bay( 5 entered 5 went) and the Fort Marcy
Sunday 5/3 handle was 9.5 Million....
I then took an April weekend 2015 from AQU and the fields were definitely shorter.
This was again a Friday-Sunday deal....The main track and turf courses were in use. Again, no rain to wipe out any turf races.
Friday 4/16...8 races....49 went to post avg 6.12 per race
Sat 4/17...9 races 61 started 6.77
Sunday 4/18 9 races...55 starters 6.11
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No slot purses in so cal, why they even have ONE horse is a mystery, why race in so cal if u can race for slot money elsewhere?
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03-27-2016, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
California should do what they used to in Ohio, half the card from SA and half from GG.
They could have 10 races a day and not over-use either track.
NY? Most east coast tracks are not even open yet.
I understand Belmont only washed the saddle cloths numbers 1-5 for this season?
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I used to love the 7/7 programs here.
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03-27-2016, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
No slot purses in so cal, why they even have ONE horse is a mystery, why race in so cal if u can race for slot money elsewhere?
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Why would they want to stick slot machines @ either Cali Facility--when they have fully-licensed Vegas-type Indian Casinos all over the state? That market is already cornered here--who wants to play the ponies when you have action like that going on?
This chart is from the 4th race last Fri @ GGF. 7 horses entered--4 scratched.
HORSEPLAYERS don't want to go here--much less any casual fan. Young people certainly don't want to go--not when there's at least 4 casinos within a couple hours drive of GGF. Note the handle for the DD.
The exacta wasn't a bad payoff--very winnable and you got 3.5X your wager --some doofus dumped a few grand on the 4-7...only way to explain that payoff.
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03-27-2016, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
California should do what they used to in Ohio, half the card from SA and half from GG.
They could have 10 races a day and not over-use either track.
NY? Most east coast tracks are not even open yet.
I understand Belmont only washed the saddle cloths numbers 1-5 for this season?
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ahhhh thistle/river those were the days
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03-27-2016, 08:45 AM
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Location: Lehigh Valley, PA.
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I've had a sensational Aqueduct inner track meet so I can't complain. I loved the racing, from a bettor's view point, lots of overlays and longshot winners that figured.
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