Dr.Hansen says, "Keeneland's romantic"

[Racey]

the poly surface is dictating all of this...perhaps a change of heart and figures to come out of the race well in this final prep.

[Pell Mell]

My opinion is they didn't want to tangle with Gemologist...now they can try to handle Dullahan and probably Howe Great...dodge ball..

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by cj

He won't win on polytrack at 9f at this point in his career. Dumb move, unless he doesn't care about winning.

I'm wondering what your rationale is behind that statement. He has already won, in fact dominated, twice on polytrack. He has won three times at a mile and a sixteenth, including beating Union Rags in the top juvenile race of last year. He has proven classic horses in his pedigree. His dosage numbers indicate he has the right combination of speed and stamina.

It seems to me that the only things that people are basing the idea that he can't go long are the fact that he runs fast and that his sire, Tapit never raced at further than a mile and a sixteenth.

I guess we will know on April 14 who is right and who is wrong.

[duncan04]

Originally Posted by Pell Mell

My opinion is they didn't want to tangle with Gemologist...now they can try to handle Dullahan and probably Howe Great...dodge ball..

And now Alpha can run in New York since he won't have to face Hansen. They all dodge other horses during the prep season.

[Leparoux]

Originally Posted by Grits

I don't care. Change your mind as often as you change your panties, I don't care. But, if its because your jock is injured, say so. Be realistic.

Don't sound silly as sin saying its because Keeneland Racecourse is romantic and that's what you're in the game for and your horse can remain in his own stall when he's shipped, perfectly, from Kentucky to Florida to New York then back to Kentucky.

Ever heard of coach speak?

[Grits]

Originally Posted by Leparoux

Ever heard of coach speak?

Yeah, plenty of it. It ranks right up there with trainer speak, one being about as glib and believable as the other.

Next . . .

[cj]

Originally Posted by mostpost

I'm wondering what your rationale is behind that statement. He has already won, in fact dominated, twice on polytrack. He has won three times at a mile and a sixteenth, including beating Union Rags in the top juvenile race of last year. He has proven classic horses in his pedigree. His dosage numbers indicate he has the right combination of speed and stamina.

It seems to me that the only things that people are basing the idea that he can't go long are the fact that he runs fast and that his sire, Tapit never raced at further than a mile and a sixteenth.

I guess we will know on April 14 who is right and who is wrong.

I'll answer even though last time I answered your post about basketball where you said I was wrong, you disappeared after I proved I was right. I have a long memory.

I have seen enough of Hansen to believe he isn't the type of horse that will rate well enough to be effective going 9f against G1 types on Polytrack. It has nothing to do with his breeding, it is his running style and the Keeneland surface. I also don't think he has improved much at all from 2 to 3, something that happens to a lot of top 2yo horses. He'll be a short price in any case, so I'll be eager to bet against him. I'll post more when we know which horses are actually in the race.

[cj]

Originally Posted by Leparoux

Ever heard of coach speak?

What is the point of using coach speak with a horse?

[sandpit]

Originally Posted by mostpost

It seems to me that the only things that people are basing the idea that he can't go long are the fact that he runs fast and that his sire, Tapit never raced at further than a mile and a sixteenth.

I guess we will know on April 14 who is right and who is wrong.

Tapit ran in the Kentucky Derby.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by cj

What is the point of using coach speak with a horse?

now that's funny!

Btw, i had some serious romantic feelings on coed day at keeneland a few years ago......multiple times.........

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by sandpit

Tapit ran in the Kentucky Derby.

He did indeed. Finished ninth. Which does not mean he cannot sire a horse capable of winning at a mile and an eighth or even a mile and a quarter.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by cj

I'll answer even though last time I answered your post about basketball where you said I was wrong, you disappeared after I proved I was right. I have a long memory.

I have seen enough of Hansen to believe he isn't the type of horse that will rate well enough to be effective going 9f against G1 types on Polytrack. It has nothing to do with his breeding, it is his running style and the Keeneland surface. I also don't think he has improved much at all from 2 to 3, something that happens to a lot of top 2yo horses. He'll be a short price in any case, so I'll be eager to bet against him. I'll post more when we know which horses are actually in the race.

He seemed to rate pretty well in the Gotham. You're too young to remember a horse called Swoon's Son. He had even more of a sprinter's pedigree than Hansen. Yet they taught him to rate and he won the American Derby at 1 3/16 miles and twice finished second in the mile and a quarter Hawthorne Gold Cup. The horse that beat him both times? Round Table. The thing is you seemed so certain he could not win. Later you said you would reserve judgement until you learn who is in the race. That is what I am going to do.

As for the basketball thing, I disagree that you proved me wrong. I will have some additional comments in that thread no later than tomorrow.

[cj]

Originally Posted by mostpost

He seemed to rate pretty well in the Gotham. You're too young to remember a horse called Swoon's Son. He had even more of a sprinter's pedigree than Hansen. Yet they taught him to rate and he won the American Derby at 1 3/16 miles and twice finished second in the mile and a quarter Hawthorne Gold Cup. The horse that beat him both times? Round Table. The thing is you seemed so certain he could not win. Later you said you would reserve judgement until you learn who is in the race. That is what I am going to do.

As for the basketball thing, I disagree that you proved me wrong. I will have some additional comments in that thread no later than tomorrow.

When they have run this many times, I don't need pedigree. We'll see I guess, but I'm betting my opinion.

As for the basketball, I said the Thunder won five games in six nights. They did. You said they didn't. To say I am wrong is borderline insane, don't you think?

Here is the link to the post you ignored:

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...2&postcount=10

Feel free to address that there, not here please...not that there is much you can say.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by cj

When they have run this many times, I don't need pedigree. We'll see I guess, but I'm betting my opinion.

As for the basketball, I said the Thunder won five games in six nights. They did. You said they didn't. To say I am wrong is borderline insane, don't you think?

Here is the link to the post you ignored:

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...2&postcount=10

Feel free to address that there, not here please...not that there is much you can say.

I have responded. We were comparing apples and oranges.

[duncan04]

Also maybe something to do with the injury record at Aqueduct? Dr. Hansen believes Hansen does best when he runs regularly, without long layoffs, so the spacing should be OK, though it adds to the Triple Crown grind on the front end.