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03-15-2019, 08:29 AM
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Doesn’t new zeeland have the most stringent gun laws in the world?
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03-15-2019, 09:10 AM
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Sounds like the shooter was anti Muslim / immigrant - not a white supremacist.
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I take the above back, just heard parts of his manifesto where he mentions a new white identity and purpose. He also lists Trump as a symbol of that identity.
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03-15-2019, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Enlighten me.
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In Brazil's larger cities, there is a big problem with homeless children. They loot stores and harass and steal from tourists which is obviously bad for tourism. The police and/or "contractors" take care of the problem at night. There was a "cleanup" project before the Rio olympics but this has been going on for years.
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03-15-2019, 12:29 PM
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I went to school in New Zealand for a year at Massey University in 1984. During that time a crazy person shot 21 dead at a California McDonalds. It made the national news there for over a week. At the time they only had 2 television stations, both state run. They had some shows of their own, some from BBC, some from Australia and some from US. Hill Street Blues was a big show then, and many thought America was one big violent city. I got crap from the locals because they only had 3 murders in the entire country the previous year.
It seems now immigration has become an issue there. The shooter was from Australia and the people in the mosques, most likely were not born in New Zealand.
The media is promoting blood and violence. The percentage of films and shows that show guns and shootings is extremely high. Even many video games are based around killing people.
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03-15-2019, 12:38 PM
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Okay enough...
This isn't some issue with immigration. This isn't the fault of video games or movies. This isn't even on parents.
This is FAR-RIGHT Terrorism. Its white supremacy. Its hardcore fascism. Its radicalization via the internet the exact same damn way Islamic Terrorists get radicalized. Crazy assholes once without friends and an audience can now get both.
Call a spade a damn spade.
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Last edited by elysiantraveller; 03-15-2019 at 12:40 PM.
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03-15-2019, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
We've raised 2 generations of zombies devoid of reason, love, and the things that are great in life.
We have now permeated our absolute worst into other Western civilization cultures.
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Mass murderers and serial killers can come from anywhere and always have.
There will always be sociopaths and psychopaths.
The internet shines the light on everything immediately.
Here is a list of New Zealand massacres -- this is not a new phenomena -- all are tragedies:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...in_New_Zealand
Last edited by highnote; 03-15-2019 at 12:59 PM.
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03-15-2019, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Okay enough...
This isn't some issue with immigration. This isn't the fault of video games or movies. This isn't even on parents.
This is FAR-RIGHT Terrorism. Its white supremacy. Its hardcore fascism. Its radicalization via the internet the exact same damn way Islamic Terrorists get radicalized. Crazy assholes once without friends and an audience can now get both.
Call a spade a damn spade.
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You should be AOCs 2024 campaign manager.
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03-15-2019, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Okay enough...
This isn't some issue with immigration. This isn't the fault of video games or movies. This isn't even on parents.
This is FAR-RIGHT Terrorism. Its white supremacy. Its hardcore fascism. Its radicalization via the internet the exact same damn way Islamic Terrorists get radicalized. Crazy assholes once without friends and an audience can now get both.
Call a spade a damn spade.
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what makes it far right? why couldn't it be far left? or just crazy?
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03-15-2019, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
You should be AOCs 2024 campaign manager.
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she only likes rich people who can juggle the books, does ET qualify?
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03-15-2019, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
what makes it far right? why couldn't it be far left? or just crazy?
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Because he's a far right reactionary white supremacist.
He isn't blowing up banks and fighting the class war he's fighting the race war.
Those movements have ties to the right side of the political spectrum. Just like people who want to kill the capitalists, bankers, and rich have their ties in leftist politics.
It doesn't matter what political persuasion you are the extremists on your side are bad people.
Call a spade a spade...
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03-15-2019, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Because he's a far right reactionary white supremacist.
He isn't blowing up banks and fighting the class war he's fighting the race war.
Those movements have ties to the right side of the political spectrum. Just like people who want to kill the capitalists, bankers, and rich have their ties in leftist politics.
It doesn't matter what political persuasion you are the extremists on your side are bad people.
Call a spade a spade...
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but he live streamed it ... only a far left would want the publicity and exposure
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03-15-2019, 02:26 PM
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but he live streamed it ... only a far left would want the publicity and exposure
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Dude has an 87 page manifesto describing everything about himself, his motives, and his affiliations...
But...
He live streamed it and only a leftist would do that...
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03-15-2019, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
but he live streamed it ... only a far left would want the publicity and exposure
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This confirms it, and is all you ever needed
to know about life around here in PA OTG.
smh........
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03-15-2019, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
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link or just main stream media opinion
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03-15-2019, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
link or just main stream media opinion
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I'm not linking any of that dude's bullshit. It's out there. Go find it if you want.
I've read it... obviously you haven't... so please please keep opining.
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