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You can count on the fingers of one hand how many times in history a guarantee hasn't been met. I remember it happened once in the Magna 5. That's why the payoff was a rounded number like exactly $8000 for 5 of 5. Magna had to put in the precise amount to get to the guarantee. There are never insurance policy's involved. As for manipulating a pool like Riles suggests. I suppose it's possible when playing for very small stakes. It could be cataclysmic though to try it with huge pools involved. Especially lest us not forget the computer program guys always get last dibs and their software jumps square on late holes created by this kind of strategy.
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Im not suggesting manipulation, i was just saying that someone might make a large bet on a horse they want to be the favorite so their scratched horse can land on a runner that THEY help designate as opposed to just letting the public decide randomly who should be favored.
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02-18-2013, 06:17 PM
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I was singled to the 6 in all my pick 4s, pick 3s etc so that scratch hurt me, i was going to win anyway and had to share my pick 4 with the masses.
Did the fave collapse in the paddock? I didnt know why he was scratched, that's too bad.
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you were the one singled to the $300K ?
am I reading this right?
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02-18-2013, 06:18 PM
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That's entirely possible. I've done that before, i've made large win bets on horses that were teetering on favorites status so my scratched Pick 6 would go onto a specific horse.
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And you've made large win bets to manipulate favorite status in pick 6's ?
Are you talking major tracks?
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02-18-2013, 06:21 PM
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you were the one singled to the $300K ?
am I reading this right?
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No, i wasnt singled to the 300k.
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02-18-2013, 06:22 PM
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No, i wasnt singled to the 300k.
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OK sorry, I see that it says pick4 now. 
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02-18-2013, 06:22 PM
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And you've made large win bets to manipulate favorite status in pick 6's ?
Are you talking major tracks?
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I havent made any bets to manipulate pools......i have made large win bets on horses i've liked.....i am allowed to make a large win bet, right?
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02-18-2013, 06:41 PM
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That's entirely possible. I've done that before, i've made large win bets on horses that were teetering on favorites status so my scratched Pick 6 would go onto a specific horse.
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I havent made any bets to manipulate pools......i have made large win bets on horses i've liked.....i am allowed to make a large win bet, right?
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The hits really keep coming today. Some really interesting claims being made.
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02-18-2013, 07:03 PM
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The hits really keep coming today. Some really interesting claims being made.
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Glad you're finding this thread of educational value!
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02-18-2013, 07:07 PM
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You can count on the fingers of one hand how many times in history a guarantee hasn't been met.
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There are never insurance policy's involved.
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Disagree.
Don't know if companies still guarantee these types of bets. I assume they do. I know for a fact that companies have been hired to insure these large payout bets in case the guarantee is not met. It's called "Prize Insurance Coverage". You can google it.
Here is one: http://www.oddsonpromotions.com/spor...racing/parlays
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02-18-2013, 07:31 PM
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Glad you're finding this thread of educational value! |
No, I've learned nothing new.
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02-18-2013, 07:34 PM
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No, I've learned nothing new.
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Sorry Al, i'll try and do better next time. 
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02-18-2013, 07:38 PM
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No, I've learned nothing new.
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Are you not entertained? 
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02-18-2013, 07:39 PM
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Sorry Al, i'll try and do better next time. |
As Homer Simpson once sagely said "The lesson in this, boy, is don't try"
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02-18-2013, 07:42 PM
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As Homer Simpson once sagely said "The lesson in this, boy, is don't try"
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The teacher just got taught. Thank's AL, i learned something new!
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02-18-2013, 08:17 PM
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I havent made any bets to manipulate pools......i have made large win bets on horses i've liked.....i am allowed to make a large win bet, right?
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wasn't calling foul
nothing wrong IMO with that form of pool manipulation.
If true, congrats on a smart play.
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