Oswald was a CIA Asset

[Marshall Bennett]

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Originally Posted by ranchwest

Tell me about your lawyer claim.

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340272/
Here's one link. Believe the claim of $25 sent to a dancer was a claim Ruby made, later debunked by Western Union in lieu of the actual telegram and transaction record. The dancer story simply never died.
Next?

[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

/https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340272/
Here's one link. Believe the claim of $25 sent to a dancer was a claim Ruby made, later debunked by Western Union in lieu of the actual telegram and transaction record. The dancer story simply never died.
Next?

That is a money order to Ruby, obviously after he shot Oswald. My reference was to Ruby’s stop at Western Union before he shot Oswald, when he wired money to his dancer. And, no, that was never debunked.

[Marshall Bennett]

Originally Posted by ranchwest

That is a money order to Ruby, obviously after he shot Oswald. My reference was to Ruby’s stop at Western Union before he shot Oswald, when he wired money to his dancer. And, no, that was never debunked.

Really...who cares? The description clearly states Ruby sent the $100, and it wasn't to a dancer.
Either way, just get over it. I'm not going to reply every day to some trivial bullshit long since dead and buried.
Good day.

[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

Really...who cares? The description clearly states Ruby sent the $100, and it wasn't to a dancer.
Either way, just get over it. I'm not going to reply every day to some trivial bullshit long since dead and buried.
Good day.

You obviously did not read the document you posted. It is not FROM Jack Ruby. It is TO Jack Ruby in the jail. $100 so Ruby could hire an attorney. This was clearly sent AFTER Ruby was arrested for shooting Oswald. Please read the document. Really!

[Inner Dirt]

My panel of experts has now determined that Oswald's chances of striking Kennedy even once were rather remote. It looks like the consensus from witnesses is that Oswald fired 3 times. Oddly enough I did not know my longest tenured friend had interest in this case till I recently spoke with him.
I did know he was an expert shot and on a rifle team in the army. So his marksman skill is way past Oswald's. He said even with a scoped hunting rifle of his choice a target moving away and downhill combined with shooting down at Oswald's angle is a tough shot, especially without knowing the distance the rifle is sighted for. Combining that with the other expert's opinion of that model of Carcano rifle I believe if Oswald even hit Kennedy once, it was blind luck.


Of course, neither I, or any of the gun people I know have ever fired a rifle loaded with magic bullets. Pretty much anyone with even minimal firearm knowledge laughs at the single bullet theory.


What I want to know was the Warren Commission pathetically inept or were they covering something up? I used to think they were just covering up the fact someone got away with murder and they could not figure out who.
Now 50 years after my last research I am thinking they might have known who done it.


I still am baffled why the anti gun politicians make no effort no learn a lick about ballistics and firearms, and there is so much outright lying about the subject spread by the media.


Was the Warren Commission full of those types?

[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

My panel of experts has now determined that Oswald's chances of striking Kennedy even once were rather remote. It looks like the consensus from witnesses is that Oswald fired 3 times. Oddly enough I did not know my longest tenured friend had interest in this case till I recently spoke with him.
I did know he was an expert shot and on a rifle team in the army. So his marksman skill is way past Oswald's. He said even with a scoped hunting rifle of his choice a target moving away and downhill combined with shooting down at Oswald's angle is a tough shot, especially without knowing the distance the rifle is sighted for. Combining that with the other expert's opinion of that model of Carcano rifle I believe if Oswald even hit Kennedy once, it was blind luck.


Of course, neither I, or any of the gun people I know have ever fired a rifle loaded with magic bullets. Pretty much anyone with even minimal firearm knowledge laughs at the single bullet theory.


What I want to know was the Warren Commission pathetically inept or were they covering something up? I used to think they were just covering up the fact someone got away with murder and they could not figure out who.
Now 50 years after my last research I am thinking they might have known who done it.


I still am baffled why the anti gun politicians make no effort no learn a lick about ballistics and firearms, and there is so much outright lying about the subject spread by the media.


Was the Warren Commission full of those types?

The Warren Commission had one agenda -- to show that Oswald acted alone. Everything they did was predicated upon that objective.

[PaceAdvantage]

George HW Bush was in the CIA at the time of the Kennedy Assassination and later became head of CIA and then POTUS.

Gerald Ford was also on the Warren Commission if memory serves correctly.

They had things well in hand both during and after the Commission....

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by ranchwest

The Warren Commission had one agenda -- to show that Oswald acted alone. Everything they did was predicated upon that objective.

One must ask why? So who done it? CIA, Mob hit, anti Castro individuals?
At least I think Oswald has been eliminated, at most he landed the non lethal back shot, and shot a couple air balls.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

One must ask why? So who done it? CIA, Mob hit, anti Castro individuals?
At least I think Oswald has been eliminated, at most he landed the non lethal back shot, and shot a couple air balls.

CIA and Mafia, IMO. CIA for self preservation, JFK said he would dismantle the CIA after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Mafia revenge to "cut the head off the snake" after RFK went after organized crime, after Cook County was handed to JFK by the mob to get him over the goal line as requested by Papa Joe. It was a bipartisan effort. LBJ and JFK hated each other and LBJ knew he wasn't going to be VP again and therefore had no chance at president, which he desperately wanted. LBJ had help with the Dallas Police.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by xtb

CIA and Mafia, IMO. CIA for self preservation, JFK said he would dismantle the CIA after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Mafia revenge to "cut the head off the snake" after RFK went after organized crime, after Cook County was handed to JFK by the mob to get him over the goal line as requested by Papa Joe. It was a bipartisan effort. LBJ and JFK hated each other and LBJ knew he wasn't going to be VP again and therefore had no chance at president, which he desperately wanted. LBJ had help with the Dallas Police.

I was always aware of RFK wanting to go after the mob, I remember his assassination pretty vividly as it happened in SoCal where I lived, MLK Jr's assassination 2 months earlier did not get a lot of coverage there. I was only two when JFK was killed, about the only thing I remember from being two is having a cat named Inky. As for study, up until now I remember little of the Bay of Pigs, but a lot about the Cuban Missile Crisis.



If you think if anyone would get rubbed out by the mob, you would think it would be RFK. Without checking my memory I believe Rafer Johnson and Rosie Grier helped subdue Sirhan Sirhan and were witnesses. I think Grier is still alive.

[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

One must ask why? So who done it? CIA, Mob hit, anti Castro individuals?
At least I think Oswald has been eliminated, at most he landed the non lethal back shot, and shot a couple air balls.

The government has led the coverup. Clearly they are embarrassed by the assassination.

[46zilzal]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-assassination

quote: There were initial concerns that Ruby might have had some connection to Oswald. But a newly released September 1964 memo to the presidential commission investigating the assassination said “the Central Intelligence Agency has no indication that Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald ever knew each other, were associated, or might have been connected in any manner”.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-assassination

quote: There were initial concerns that Ruby might have had some connection to Oswald. But a newly released September 1964 memo to the presidential commission investigating the assassination said “the Central Intelligence Agency has no indication that Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald ever knew each other, were associated, or might have been connected in any manner”.

And foxes can be used to guard chicken coops.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by xtb

And foxes can be used to guard chicken coops.

Raise your hand if you trust the CIA.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

George HW Bush was in the CIA at the time of the Kennedy Assassination

Don’t think so. Then a private citizen in the oil business. Bush was head of the CIA for one year 1976.

I still think H W Bush was our most qualified President. Should have won a second term.