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View Poll Results: How do you feel about gun control laws?
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Current laws infringe on our rights and should be weakened
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Current laws are just fine, thanks. We don't need anything more
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Current laws are not satisfactory, there are "common sense" adjustments that should be made
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02-24-2018, 07:54 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses
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They had very little training, but they got some shots off. What an idiot he was.......
Whomever gave then an auto pistol was a fool. If not for the one revolver, they would be dead
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02-24-2018, 11:26 PM
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#287
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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like stated, it doesn't really matter what your shooting in close range shootouts. the guy that can put it on target is going to be the winner.
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02-25-2018, 08:05 AM
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#288
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by jimmyb
The military trains 17 year olds to use many varieties of weapons.
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it takes a civilian 10 weeks of training in the army to be a soldier.
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02-25-2018, 09:33 AM
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#289
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chadk66
like stated, it doesn't really matter what your shooting in close range shootouts. the guy that can put it on target is going to be the winner.
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02-25-2018, 11:20 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Beaverdam Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chadk66
like stated, it doesn't really matter what your shooting in close range shootouts. the guy that can put it on target is going to be the winner.
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Tell that to any know nothing about gun liberal who thinks an AR-15 turns you into an instant winner in any gun battle, unless of course that AR-15 is against another AR-15.
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02-25-2018, 11:26 AM
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#291
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Beaverdam Virginia
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Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith
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Awesome, why the hell do they try to save the robber is beyond me, he is in critical condition. I hope he dies.
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02-25-2018, 01:20 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrhorseplayer
it takes a civilian 10 weeks of training in the army to be a soldier.
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How many weeks since the last mass shooting?
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02-25-2018, 02:17 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inner Dirt
Awesome, why the hell do they try to save the robber is beyond me, he is in critical condition. I hope he dies.
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On Live PD last night the host reported after interviewing the owner/daughter that the guy was able to check himself into the ER.
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02-25-2018, 03:30 PM
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nvemil
On Live PD last night the host reported after interviewing the owner/daughter that the guy was able to check himself into the ER.
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Why the hell did the robber come back? He grabbed the cash, the owners gave it up, and he headed for the door. Should have been the end of it right there.
The daughter is really freaking lucky she didn't shoot her mom.. the robber and the mom were wildly grappling each other and the daughter just aimed in their general direction and shot. And it looked like the robber actually came away with the mom's pistol during the grappling.
All in all those women were incredibly lucky it turned out as well for them as it did.
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02-25-2018, 03:47 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
All in all those women were incredibly lucky it turned out as well for them as it did.
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True, and clearly because lack of training and common sense. The daughter in particular looked clueless as to what to do.
When the guy starts to come back in, you shoot him immediately. When the guy is wrestling with your mother, you walk up behind him, put the gun to his head, and pull the trigger.
Anyone that ever took a self-defense course from a competent instructor learned those things in the classroom, before ever handling a gun.
If you have to take out a gun, you must use it as needed until the threat is gone.
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02-25-2018, 03:57 PM
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The robber actually wrestled the gun away, hit her in the head with it and tried to fire it...it was out of bullets. Why he kept coming on for more only they really know. Again, I am amazed that he was shot 4 times and reportedly got himself to the hospital which also implies the police did not apprehend until then.
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02-25-2018, 04:26 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oklahoma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
How many weeks since the last mass shooting?
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posted this for all those that think it takes years and years to be properly trained.
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02-25-2018, 06:57 PM
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#298
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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The article posted and discussed earlier in this thread about the ammo used in the AR-15 may indicate a change in tactics for the gun grabbers on the left. The article cited below responds to that article discussed here, and points out that if you focus on the bullet instead of the evil looking rifle, you can appear to provide more scientific evidence for your argument, and you can attack a wider range of firearms. The target eventually becomes all high-powered rifles, because the vast majority of them are more powerful than the AR-15.
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...re-ar-15-guns/
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02-25-2018, 07:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
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But the fact is that a .223 fired from a single-shot, bolt-action rifle is going to perform very much the same was as that same round coming from the sexy and incredibly vicious AR-15.
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It's going to be faster because a normal AR is a 14.5-20" barrel anything shorter is illegal. Most bolt guns are longer giving the propellant more time to accelerate the round.
New line will be "check out this Savage Model 11! It can shoot an AR bullet even FASTER than a AR15."
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 02-25-2018 at 07:21 PM.
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02-25-2018, 07:47 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Baystater
Posts: 3,494
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrhorseplayer
it takes a civilian 10 weeks of training in the army to be a soldier.
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My point was, age is no condition of responsible use. The drinking age is 21 in most states, but this doesn't mean all who legally drink do it responsibly.
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