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Old 11-27-2020, 02:05 AM   #7786
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7 deaths in Dallas county, all had "extreme underlying health conditions".

And to add further disappointment, even Parkland Hospital (the indigent go there for free care) admitted there's no shortage of beds.

Sell the fear porn elsewhere.
that was a nice try! unfortunately the Dallas County Corona updates were closed on November 26 and will be closed on November 27.


https://www.dallascounty.org/covid-19/
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Old 11-27-2020, 05:03 AM   #7787
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7 deaths in Dallas county, all had "extreme underlying health conditions".

And to add further disappointment, even Parkland Hospital (the indigent go there for free care) admitted there's no shortage of beds.

Sell the fear porn elsewhere.
You are in denial.

All of Texas.....

https://covidtracking.com/data/chart...lized-by-state

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Old 11-27-2020, 05:15 AM   #7788
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Cases, Hospitalizations and deaths, across the country. In order of occurrence.

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Old 11-27-2020, 06:52 AM   #7789
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Cases, Hospitalizations and deaths, across the country. In order of occurrence.

Great news!! Your graphs show correlation between tests and cases as we all suspected. A number of studies have shown that the virus is 8-10x more prevalent than previously known. More testing seems to be capturing some of that. Additionally, your graphs show that death rates have dropped rapidly over time. As we head into the vaccination stage, I expect COVID to collapse but not die out.
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Old 11-27-2020, 07:56 AM   #7790
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the death rate corelates to about 1% of the total amount of people that have tested positive down from a much higher number, due to more knowledge of the virus. doctors are no longer treating this with induced comma's and have a number or drugs that helps the patient get through the contamination.

the percentage of people that die of this will go up when the curve goes down due to the less amount of people that contract it and the prior people that were contracted to the virus finally succumb to their illness after long periods of time fighting it.

if looking back at the worst period of pre vaccination of polio can be compared, after 1 year there was an 80% decrease in infections (saying this only out of memory when i was a little kid).
if true, this would be great news. not only that, back in the mid 1950's was probably the greatest time for the growth of our economy when there were still stay at home mothers. we might be heading back to those days with the advent of working mothers that work from home! this might be the one great thing that comes out of the corona era.
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Old 11-27-2020, 10:40 AM   #7791
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Great news!! Your graphs show correlation between tests and cases as we all suspected. A number of studies have shown that the virus is 8-10x more prevalent than previously known. More testing seems to be capturing some of that. Additionally, your graphs show that death rates have dropped rapidly over time. As we head into the vaccination stage, I expect COVID to collapse but not die out.
This virus has been around since January. Yes we have learned to increase the survivability.

SO WHAT?

Are you saying hospitalizations are not on the rise, and have no correlation with rising cases, and rising death rates? I am saying "herd immunity has not panned out as your inept leader and his flunky uninformed radiologist S.Atlas have preached.

Thank God we will be under new management.
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Old 11-27-2020, 11:49 AM   #7792
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This virus has been around since January. Yes we have learned to increase the survivability.

SO WHAT?

Are you saying hospitalizations are not on the rise, and have no correlation with rising cases, and rising death rates? I am saying "herd immunity has not panned out as your inept leader and his flunky uninformed radiologist S.Atlas have preached.

Thank God we will be under new management.
i think what he is saying is that the death rate is relatively small compared to other types types of deaths.. he is right for now, but this thing had the potential to be very significant.

and i do have sympathy for the people and family's that have had empty chairs this Thanksgiving and Christmas and for the ones that won't be here next year..

thank god for the vaccine
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and i do have sympathy for the people and family's that have had empty chairs this Thanksgiving and Christmas and for the ones that won't be here next year..

thank god for the vaccine
Indeed. Behind the esoteric numbers are real people.

That said, whether you either poo-poo the virus or go completely hysterical are both bad. People are going to die whether you lock down or open up. You solve covid if you lock down, but you then open up pandora's box of suicides, drug overdoses, financial ruin, our children not learning, and many other problems. Harry uses Covid as a black/white issue when there are many colors of gray in there. Simple stated by many of us "deniers" is that you can't kill the patient (US economy/households) and claim that you've cured the illness. Long term the patient is dead either way we handle this and Biden will be no exception.

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Old 11-27-2020, 12:13 PM   #7794
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Indeed. Behind the esoteric numbers are real people.

That said, whether you either poo-poo the virus or go completely hysterical are both bad. People are going to die whether you lock down or open up. You solve covid if you lock down, but you then open up pandora's box of suicides, drug overdoses, financial ruin, our children not learning, and many other problems. Harry uses Covid as a black/white issue when there are many colors of gray in there. Simple stated by many of us "deniers" is that you can't kill the patient (US economy/households) and claim that you've cured the illness. Long term the patient is dead either way we handle this and Biden will be no exception.
i was just posting the numbers just to show the potential of this thing.. you will agree with me that you never want to see 1% of the total population die from this.. that's not good economically and morality wise. up until now there has not been any type of good strategy to combat this thing. we did only have people running around hysterically.. the only thing that i know of that helps outside of a good vaccine is separating the sick from the healthy.
the problem is that some people don't even know if they are walking around and are sick and spreading. the states took half assed stupid measures like closing restaurants up at 9 o'clock instead of 11. either open it or close it. and then they let big business have their stores stay open that are more likely to spread the virus than the smaller ones. there was nothing that made any sense at all to me in the way they did things.

i don't know if Biden will be great or not, but i don't think he can do a worse job than what we have now. its probably irrelevent now with the vaccine coming soon.
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i think what he is saying is that the death rate is relatively small compared to other types types of deaths.. he is right for now, but this thing had the potential to be very significant.

and i do have sympathy for the people and family's that have had empty chairs this Thanksgiving and Christmas and for the ones that won't be here next year..

thank god for the vaccine
Comparisons must be made with other communicable infectious diseases.

Not heart disease and cancer
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i was just posting the numbers just to show the potential of this thing.. you will agree with me that you never want to see 1% of the total population die from this.. that's not good economically and morality wise. up until now there has not been any type of good strategy to combat this thing. we did only have people running around hysterically.. the only thing that i know of that helps outside of a good vaccine is separating the sick from the healthy.
the problem is that some people don't even know if they are walking around and are sick and spreading. the states took half assed stupid measures like closing restaurants up at 9 o'clock instead of 11. either open it or close it. and then they let big business have their stores stay open that are more likely to spread the virus than the smaller ones. there was nothing that made any sense at all to me in the way they did things.

i don't know if Biden will be great or not, but i don't think he can do a worse job than what we have now. its probably irrelevent now with the vaccine coming soon.
I agree with most of that. I honestly feel that if you had President <insert any name> in charge, we'd be exactly where we are. The governors have made most of the mistakes, and if a president had successfully gotten the states to shut down for longer, then financial ruin and suicides/drug overdoses would have spiked. It's a no win situation.
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Comparisons must be made with other communicable infectious diseases.

Not heart disease and cancer
there are more deaths this year than last year at this time, but there are other factors that go into those numbers. the increase is not enough to make a conclusive decision that the corona caused it all. the corona is less than one tenth of 1 percent of all forms of deaths the way i read it. the people that say this is no big deal compare it to the flu. but i don't think its that simple, there are still plenty of people that don't die from this that will never breath the same way the rest of their lives and will probably die earlier than those that don't get sick from this.
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Old 11-28-2020, 12:00 AM   #7798
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for Thursday, November 26,2020

108,000 new cases*

1300 deaths*


* 19 states did not report and a few others only partially reported.
for Friday, November 27, 2020

164,000 cases*

1400 deaths*



*some states only partially reported
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I agree with most of that. I honestly feel that if you had President <insert any name> in charge, we'd be exactly where we are. The governors have made most of the mistakes, and if a president had successfully gotten the states to shut down for longer, then financial ruin and suicides/drug overdoses would have spiked. It's a no win situation.
Its almost like Trump is infallible in your eyes.

You guys went from him being the lessor of two evils to someone who walks on water in 4 years.

Impressive.
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Its almost like Trump is infallible in your eyes.

You guys went from him being the lessor of two evils to someone who walks on water in 4 years.

Impressive.
Hindsight is impressive.
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