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12-05-2022, 11:15 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North Riverside, Il.
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Originally Posted by Jeff P
Every registered voter in CA was supposed to receive a mail in ballot.
Never received one. Voted in person.
Same for a neighbor who lives across the street.
Both of us R's.
Never gave it much thought until I saw this:
https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ion_fraud.html
Where did my mail in ballot go? Where did my neighbor's mail in ballot go?
-jp
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Were you planning to vote by mail?
Did someone hide the fact that Nov. 8 was election day from you?
Did someone hide the location of your polling place?
Are you lying about not receiving a mail in ballot which you were not going to use in any event?
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Last edited by mostpost; 12-05-2022 at 11:21 PM.
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12-05-2022, 11:32 PM
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#32
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North Riverside, Il.
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Originally Posted by mostpost
I've been retired for 17 plus years now and even before i retired things were changing rapidly. Here's what I know. Very little mail is sorted by hand anymore. It's all done by machine. When you vote by mail, you have a few options. You can take your ballot to a local collection point which could be a City Hall or a a County building or perhaps an early polling place. You could drop it in a designated drop box if your jurisdiction has such. Or, you could drop it in a mailbox. If you do the latter, it will be picked up along with the rest of the mail by a carrier. sometimes by the regular carrier on the route; sometimes by a mounted carrier whose job is to exclusively gather mail from the boxes and bring it back to the office. Most folks don't realize it but there is usually a postal tub in those boxes so the carrier simply removes the full tub and replaces it with an empty one. unless it is sitting on top, it is doubtful the carrier would even notice there is a ballot in there. In 2016 there were approximately 153,000 collection boxes in the United States, plus 31000 post offices. so the chances of any particular collection points having a noticeable number of ballots on a particular collection is small.
What happens after the carrier returns to the office with the mail from a dozen or so collection boxes. Again, this is based on procedures when i was working.
There are no sorting machines at your local post office and no mail is sorted by hand. Outgoing mail from businesses is usually presorted by them and put in trays or tubs and sent out that way. Loose mail from the collections and from the front of the office is simply dumped loose in a hamper-the kind you see in prison laundries in the movies. All of this is then wheeled on to a truck and taken to the sectional sorting facility.
Usually these trucks are operated by contractors. They are on a tight schedule and are subject to random checks by postal inspectors.
https://about.usps.com/what/governme...election-mail/
I probably should have just started with this. The actual regulations for handling mail in ballots. If you are inclined, as are you and I to trust the process, this will be reassuring. If you are a conspiracy theorist it won't matter at all.
Your original question was how much time does a carrier have to identify any type of mail and divert it for whatever reason. Very little. sorting standards are 18 and 8. That is, the carrier is required to sort 18 letters and 8 flats a minute. A flat is a magazine or large envelope. that is one every 2.3 seconds. you barely have time to look at the address, much less anything else about the piece. Anyway, all that is pretty much irrelevant because most mail comes into the office presorted and sequenced. The carrier just seperates it into manageable bundles and is on his way.
ETA: OK that link is not what i thought it was. I will have to go back and find the proper one.
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As promised....I hope
https://about.usps.com/what/governme...rvice-talk.pdf
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12-05-2022, 11:38 PM
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: JCapper Platinum: Kind of like Deep Blue... but for horses.
Posts: 5,302
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
Were you planning to vote by mail?
Did someone hide the fact that Nov. 8 was election day from you?
Did someone hide the location of your polling place?
Are you lying about not receiving a mail in ballot which you were not going to use in any event?
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Not lying.
Go fuck yourself.
-jp
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12-05-2022, 11:50 PM
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#34
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Western NY
Posts: 5,369
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Originally Posted by Jeff P
Not lying.
Go fuck yourself.
-jp
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12-06-2022, 12:36 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,796
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Originally Posted by Jeff P
Not lying.
Go fuck yourself.
-jp
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12-06-2022, 08:25 AM
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C'est Tout
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cajunland
Posts: 13,290
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff P
Every registered voter in CA was supposed to receive a mail in ballot.
Never received one. Voted in person.
Same for a neighbor who lives across the street.
Both of us R's.
Never gave it much thought until I saw this:
https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ion_fraud.html
Where did my mail in ballot go? Where did my neighbor's mail in ballot go?
-jp
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American Thinker?
Mike Lindell?
Good luck buddy - how's everything at HANA these days?
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12-06-2022, 08:53 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,796
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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
Good luck buddy - how's everything at HANA these days?
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Says the guy claiming to still live in La.
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12-06-2022, 09:11 AM
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#38
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C'est Tout
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cajunland
Posts: 13,290
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
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Quite the gumshoe, you
I thought I woke up today in the suburbs of New Orleans, but maybe I'm mistaken...tell me, where do I live?
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12-06-2022, 09:23 AM
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#39
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,796
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
Quite the gumshoe, you
I thought I woke up today in the suburbs of New Orleans, but maybe I'm mistaken...tell me, where do I live?
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Cajunland, obviously.
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12-06-2022, 09:24 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,796
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Cajunland, obviously.
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Oh I see...you interpreted my initial reply as me saying you're not telling the truth about where you live.
That's not AT ALL how my reply was intended.
I'll let you try again.
(PS. I believe you 100% when you say you live in La...and that was precisely the point of my reply...lol)
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12-06-2022, 09:28 AM
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C'est Tout
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cajunland
Posts: 13,290
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Oh I see...you interpreted my initial reply as me saying you're not telling the truth about where you live.
That's not AT ALL how my reply was intended.
I'll let you try again.
(PS. I believe you 100% when you say you live in La...and that was precisely the point of my reply...lol)
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12-06-2022, 09:52 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 113,005
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
If you think it's some rouge USPS employee sifting through stacks of mail...
Yeah, you're right...that IS funny...kind of like a Seinfeld episode featuring Newman.
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And you think your idea of a mass postal conspiracy makes any sense?
That sounds more like South Park.
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12-07-2022, 12:09 PM
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#44
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,796
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Originally Posted by davew
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Don't worry...they draw the line at stealing/trashing/manipulating mail-in ballots...
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12-07-2022, 12:17 PM
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#45
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Western NY
Posts: 5,369
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Don't worry...they draw the line at stealing/trashing/manipulating mail-in ballots...
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Thank God, one postal conspiracy is enough.
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