PizzaGate .....

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PA

Fake news source? is doing this on video for anyone to see. Has nothing to do with a news source.

Duh!
From your article criticizing these jerks...

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...ophilia/220861

..The videos that popped up upon searching for Spielberg and Hanks were low-quality-fi, rambling, close-up shots, several made by a man named Isaac Kappy, a minor actor who has spent the last week posting video-recorded rants on YouTube with titles like “Famous Actor Exposes Hollywood Pedophiles! Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks And More! #Pizzagate.” Thanks to rapid dissemination on message boards Reddit and 4chan, the videos garnered hundreds of thousands of views and shot up in the YouTube rankings, eclipsing interviews and movie clips featuring the stars.


You have to admit there is no reputable journalism going on with either pizzagate, Q or This "kappy" guy and his buddies.

Allegations innuendo, and insinuations. Nothing else.

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Now to Q. I have no idea what Q is or isn't.

QAnon-- a wacky conspiracy theory.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d6d2b4b972c7

"In the black hole of conspiracy in which “Q” has plunged its followers, Trump only feigned collusion to create a pretense for the hiring of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, who is actually working as a “white hat,” or hero, to expose the Democrats. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and George Soros are planning a coup — and traffic children in their spare time. "

a coup by Obama, Clinton and Soros. LOL.

It is the kind of nutlogs you try and avoid at all costs.

Yet there they were front and center in Tampa yesterday.

Allan

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by hcap

Curious no one in the alleged child sex Dem ring were ever investigated, indicted or found guilty of any crime.

Debunking

The conspiracy theory has been widely discredited and debunked. It has been judged to be false after detailed investigation by the fact-checking website Snopes.com and The New York Times,[48][62][63] and numerous news organizations have debunked it as a conspiracy theory, including the New York Observer,[64] The Washington Post,[65] The Independent in London,[66] The Huffington Post,[67] The Washington Times,[14] the Los Angeles Times,[68] Fox News,[69] and the Miami Herald.[8] The Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia characterized the matter as "fictitious".[8]

Much of the purported evidence cited by the conspiracy theory's proponents had been taken from entirely different sources and made to appear as if they supported the conspiracy.[4] Images of children of family and friends of the pizzeria's staff were taken from social media sites such as Instagram and claimed to be photos of victims.[62] The Charlotte Observer noted the diverse group of sources that had debunked the conspiracy theory, pointing out this included the Fox News Channel in addition to The New York Times.[42]

On December 10, 2016, The New York Times published an article that analyzed the claims that the theory proposed.[2] They emphasized that:

The theory claimed "cheese pizza" was code for "child pornography", since the term had been used in this context previously on the website 4chan. This was extrapolated to other mentions of food in non-political emails. However, as The New York Times pointed out, the "Podesta brothers were famous in Washington circles for their Italian cooking and big salon and fund-raising dinners, often cooked by their mother."[2]
Theorists linked the conspiracy to Comet Ping Pong, through similarities between company logos and symbols related to Satanism and pedophilia. However, The Times noted that similarities were also found in the logos of a number of unrelated companies, such as AOL, Time Warner, and MSN.[2]
A photograph was circulated purporting to show President Barack Obama playing ping pong with a child inside Comet Ping Pong. The original picture hangs framed in the White House, where it was taken.[2]
Theorists claimed an underground network beneath Comet Ping Pong; however, the restaurant actually has no basement, and the picture used to support this claim was taken from another facility.[2]
Theorists claimed to have a picture of restaurant owner Alefantis wearing a T-shirt endorsing pedophilia. However, the image was of another person, and the shirt, which read "J' ❤ L'Enfant," was actually a reference to the L'Enfant Cafe-Bar in DC, whose owner was pictured in the image, and which itself is named after Pierre Charles L'Enfant, designer of much of the layout of Washington, D.C.[2]
Theorists claimed John and Tony Podesta kidnapped Madeleine McCann using police sketches that were, in fact, two sketches of the same suspect taken from the descriptions of two eyewitnesses. The claim that the brothers were in Portugal at the time of the kidnapping was sourced only to the conspiracy website Victurus Libertas, notable for, among other things, suggesting that Queen Elizabeth II was a reptilian alien.[2]

No alleged victims have come forward and no physical evidence has been found.[70]

Give it up clueless one.

I could make a list of 100 speculations that turned out to be false. I could also claim that since I discredited some of the speculation that means the entire story is false. But I would never do that. If I did I'd be the same kind of incompetent and fake news outlet as the NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, and MSNBC.

I've been telling you all long that aspects of the story and speculation were false. Listing them doesn't add anything. I could add to your list because I know more than those news outlets have made public!

If you want I'll discredit the infamous Podesta "hotdog stand" in Hawaii for you that the mainstream media didn't touch. I found the answer to what it means. I'm willing to do that because I am a credible person that is calling it the way I see with no agenda (in both directions).

It's the stuff those fake news sites did not cover that are critical. They didn't cover them because they CAN'T discredit some of it and that would destroy the narrative that it's all false if they did.

You know why Trump's casual connection to a convicted pedophile like Epstein is never covered by CNN, MSNBC etc... like they cover all his affairs and sexual misdoings for weeks on end?

It's because if they attacked Trump's connection to Epstein it would open a Pandora's box to the Clintons, a bunch of other Washington politicians, lawyers, judges, FBI people, wealthy businessmen etc.. who either went to that island and on his plane to screw the underage girls he was pimping out or they knew it was going on and did nothing. A couple of Girls HAVE named names and there ARE flight logs publicly available. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Most of of the girls have been bought off and are quiet.

The media is mostly made up of liars, cheats, and bought and paid for scumbags.

You know why Epstein got off with a slap on the wrist?

Because he could rat out everyone in Washington that used his service just like a Hollywood madam. In fact, he probably did rat them all out to the FBI directer to get a deal (Robert Mueller was a big shot back then). The FBI then used the information but never took anyone down because there were too many powerful people involved.

[hcap]

The last time we discussed pizzagte "keywords" I told you they were not on any official FBI documents after you to0ld me they were. When I pressed, you could not find the originals only fakes from bogus sites, and said they "expired" or some such thing.

The FBI, has no record of those pizzagate keywords. The fake newsites do. So what should I conclude?

[woodtoo]

You are an idiot.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by hcap

The last time we discussed pizzagte "keywords" I told you they were not on any official FBI documents after you to0ld me they were. When I pressed, you could not find the originals only fakes from bogus sites, and said they "expired" or some such thing.

The FBI, has no record of those pizzagate keywords. The fake newsites do. So what should I conclude?

Read this carefully even though it's long. You will see I am offering you the actual story and not making wild claims.

I gave you a link to the department of the FBI mentioned as the source of those documents. The department exists and the area of crime they were focused on was consistent with the documents.

AS far as I know, the documents were never released to the general public because they were part of the FBI's effort to combat child pornography and related crimes LONG BEFORE there was ever a pizzagate. They have nothing to do with the pizzagate story. They were released to law enforcement around the country as a part of that FBI effort quite awhile ago. Basically it was the FBI telling law enforcement, "this is what you should be looking for" and that's it.

They came into the public space because they were part of the tons of documents that were either hacked or released to wikileaks by a whitleblower over the years. Wikieleaks released them with the Podesta emails and Strator emails. Most likely, that was specifically done so people would see the connections. That's when they became part of the story.

No one in the media has ever claimed they were fake. Neither has the FBI or any other law enforcement agency.

Some have used the document as a reference by saying many of the claims of logos being similar to the symbols were false. I agree with that mainstream assertion. Some of the claims by conspiracy theorists were ridiculous.

HOWEVER, if a certain establishment raises eyebrows because of the nature of comments and pictures on their Instagram account and then you find out that certain bands that played there have such symbols present in their fliers or on their equipment, you could easily get the idea that some of these people are what I would call "pedo friendly" or have an unhealthy interest in children.

That goes double when certain other things about their sexuality are out in the open.

That goes triple when they are tied politically to people that have emails with comments in them that make no sense in context but include words that are known by law enforcement and the public to be code for child sex. (Cheese and cheese pizza are the 2 terms that are 100% certain. The rest is wild speculation).

That goes quadruple when those emails mention bringing 3 underage kids to a party for "entertainment".

That goes quintuple when the same woman providing the kids had a web page where she talked about viewing them "raw and uncut".

I could go on.

That does not prove which if any of these individuals are traffickers or pedophiles. However, there is a well established network of people, signs that some are, and enough circumstantial evidence that only a pinhead can't do the math. The problem is that you can't get from knowing that something is going on to actually arresting them until someone comes forward and names names. That's a tough nut because just like in the Epstein case, these girls (or in this case boys) are certainly paid off and scared to death.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

You are an idiot.

Points for that reply!

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

Allegations innuendo, and insinuations. Nothing else.

When it comes to pedos and sexual harassers, that's generally how it starts.

Took a long time to bring Cosby to justice, did it not? And all those Catholic priests? Those are but two examples.

What I'm saying is...SERIOUS allegations such as from this Kappy guy (putting it out there on video...not hiding at all) shouldn't be so flippantly tossed aside simply because you think this is related to "pizzagate" or "Q?"

Imagine if ONE of his allegations are true and nobody did anything about it because of God damn political leanings? **** man...come on. Even YOU can't be that insane.

See, this is what I'm talking about. It's basic stuff.

[Tom]

I bet this is another one of those vast, right wing conspiracies.
You know hcap, like the one that lied about Billy Boy's quasi-pedo romps with interns?

Oh, wait. It wasn't a lie~!

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by Tom

You know hcap, like the one that lied about Billy Boy's quasi-pedo romps with interns?

At the time she was 22. Well above the age of consent. she was however young and dumb.

Allan

[davew]

Originally Posted by Tom

I bet this is another one of those vast, right wing conspiracies.
You know hcap, like the one that lied about Billy Boy's quasi-pedo romps with interns?

Oh, wait. It wasn't a lie~!

has anyone written the story yet?

YouTube

[Tom]

Ah yes, Hillary's Greatest Hits.

Double down - covers up her husband's total lack of morals and integrity while waging war on women.
Nice to multi--task.

But ask hcap - the left NEVER lies!

[Tom]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

At the time she was 22. Well above the age of consent. she was however young and dumb.

Allan

Yes, and she was basically an employee - an intern, and he was the POTUS.
HE was not young nor dumb - he was a slimeball.

And his wife was a freaking LIAR not only blaming his perversions on other people, but waging war on oen of the founding Mothers of the ME TOO movement.

ME TOO is all about stopping scumbags like Harvey and Hillary. No matter what lies the bitch is telling today.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

I gave you a link to the department of the FBI mentioned as the source of those documents. The department exists and the area of crime they were focused on was consistent with the documents.

No, it was a document that claimed to be from the FBI. We have only your word it was genuinely from the department. The existence of this department by itself does not establish the validity of those pizzagate keywords.

AS far as I know, the documents were never released to the general public because they were part of the FBI's effort to combat child pornography and related crimes LONG BEFORE there was ever a pizzagate. They have nothing to do with the pizzagate story. They were released to law enforcement around the country as a part of that FBI effort quite awhile ago. Basically it was the FBI telling law enforcement, "this is what you should be looking for" and that's it.

This is one of the reasons pizzagate could not be real. One would have assumed all of these "law enforcement" departments would have released some of these documents by now. How many officers must be covering up in order for your conspiracy to make any sense? 1,000, 5,000?
Add in all of mainstream media, 100,000?

Each layer of your conspiracy adds massive amounts of willing and unwilling participants.

They came into the public space because they were part of the tons of documents that were either hacked or released to wikileaks by a whitleblower over the years. Wikieleaks released them with the Podesta emails and Strator emails. Most likely, that was specifically done so people would see the connections. That's when they became part of the story.

Sorry, wiki is notoriously unreliable and was hacked.

Pizzagate has been described as a "fictitious conspiracy theory" by the District of Columbia Police Department.

Why should we accept wikileaks or Stratfor when the local police have debunked it. Podesta's emails had the words pizza in them, but they were interpreted by unreliable websites as the "keyword"s that you have not proven.

Podesta denied it as did Clinton.
No one was arrested or indicted.

[PaceAdvantage]

Same arguments again and again. I tire of this thread.

I'm shutting it down. No more talk about this. Hcap should be happy.