Why do you really oppose a wall?

[woodtoo]

Wilbur Ernesto Martinez-Guzman 19 yr. old illegal immigrant in Nevada detained for four homicides this month.
Four more reasons.

[Tom]

So here is a logical question.
IF the Dingbat Pelosi considers walls immoral, is she prepared to introduce legislature to REMOVE all the walls along the border that she and other dems have previously voted FOR, or is she a just a lying hypocrite?

[woodtoo]

According to Democrat "walk away" Jeffry Petersons' Twitter account the Democrats will NEVER support a wall because they are being paid off by Mexican Mafia/Drug cartels and he has plenty of documentation on his account.
Nasty, Nancy, nasty.

Article at Gateway Pundit

[Tom]

The bitch kept her mouth shut when 0bama built 100+ miles of fence, so I guess her being paid off by drug cartels is 100% a strong possibility.

She has no integrity and is not an American by any stretch of the imagination.
A sell out makes perfect sense.

[Burls]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Wilbur Ernesto Martinez-Guzman 19 yr. old illegal immigrant in Nevada detained for four homicides this month.
Four more reasons.

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by Burls

What's the chart look like with just felonies?

[jocko699]

Originally Posted by chadk66

What's the chart look like with just felonies?

Key word is conviction rate. Great fffing graph!!!!!!

[ultracapper]

How the hell can you count them accurately if they're undocumented? One day did all the undocumented immigrants in this country fill out some census form so we'd know who they are?

Come on man, think this through.

[ultracapper]

And thanks for the graph. Look at the legal immigrant's rate. Kind of makes sense we make them go through the process, huh? Legal immigrants seem to make relatively model citizens. Gee, going through the process seems to carry with it a touch of pride. Maybe all immigrants should go through the process. Seems it's better for them, and better for the country as a whole.

I love it when the hangman forgets the rope, so the convict brings one for him.

[ultracapper]

Looks like all they send are hit squads to Texas. They come up here murder at a rate approaching native born, but I guess there's just nothing in Texas worth stealing. Or if there is, only a Texan could want it.

Putting up that graph wins dumb post of the day, unless you like shoving a knife in your own gut.

[ultracapper]

Let me guess, the poster with the brain fart that posted that graph to make one point, but left the door open to make the opposite point 5 times better, is anti-gun. Close? I bet I am. I'm guessing larceny is on the low side because there is a sizable number of armed Texans just daring you to steal a GD thing from them, and the illegals know it.

Gee, it's kind of interesting that of the 3 categories, the one the illegals come the closest in is murder. Another attempted robbery botched. "Did you steal his car?" "No, but I killed him. He came out his backdoor with a shotgun. I fired and ran."

Lets all guess. There's a reason we're looking at 2015.

1) Either 2016 and 2017 look a hell of a lot worse,

2) The Cato Institute hasn't tabulated 2016 and 2017 yet, because they know it will look a hell of a lot worse, or

3) Funding has dried up at the Cato Institute due to the fact they can't tell their sponsors what they want to hear and they can't provide the manpower to tabulate 2016 and 2017

[Tom]

Burls post is meaningless.
Like hcap he uses colors instead of facts.
Just look at the middle columns - Homicide.

I guess that closeness is acceptable to him.

Like I said, meaningless chart.

[ultracapper]

Really, there's more. This is the most fertile field I've plowed since I was in my 20s.

Let me get something to eat, and then we'll have some more fun with this one.

[MONEY]

Originally Posted by Burls

How many actual murders does this chart add up to 60/70 a year by illegals.
I'm pretty sure that a chart like this is comforting to the victims' families.

[ultracapper]

Originally Posted by MONEY

How many actual murders does this chart add up to 60/70 a year by illegals.
I'm pretty sure that a chart like this is comforting to the victims' families.

Look at the chart a little more careful also. Per "100,000 population". It's not 4 Native Texans commit murders for every 100,000 Native Texans. It's not 3 illegals commit murders for every 100,000 illegals. It's for 100,000 population. How many people in Texas? I'm not certain, I'm shooting from the hip here (no pun intended). 30 mil for argument sake? Gotta be close I'd think. How many are native Texans, or better yet, and more accurate, natural US citizens living in Texas? For argument sake and ease of math, let's say 24 mil, or 80%. How many illegals (total guestimate, because unless illegals report directly to the Cato Institute in assisting them in keeping statistics, they are undocumented, and by definition, they are unaccounted for), let's say 3 mil, or 10%. Lets say the other 10%, 3 mil, are legal immigrants.

So, there are 300, hundred-thousands total. Natural US citizens, at 4 per, committed 1200 murders. Illegals, at 3 per, committed 900, and legals, at .5 per, committed 150.

Natural US citizens 24 million committed 1200 murders
Illegal immigrants 3 million committed 900 murders
Legal immigrants 3 million committed 150 murders.

Per SUB-GROUP (which is what the poster, and the hack, disingenuous, drive-my-agenda-at-all-costs-damn-the-truth blogger, didn't take into account before making a ludicrous claim. Or, even more likely, knew that if it was presented in a certain way it would tell the target audience what they wanted to hear) works out like this.

Every 100,000 "natives" commit 5 murders
Every 100,000 illegals commit 30 murders
Every 100,000 "legals" commit 5 murders

My population numbers are totally an off the top of my head guestimate, but they serve the purpose of explaining exactly what that report is displaying and they are close enough, even if the margin of error is 25%, to give an accurate depiction of crime rate for these 3 POPULATION SUB-GROUPS.

I know most of you aren't going to be able to focus long enough to read this. Heck, most can't focus long enough to even understand the graphics they're arguing about. Pretty colors and big bold headers and it says what I want it to say, and we got a big rip roaring 25 page name calling headbutt.

Carry on.