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Old 01-19-2019, 05:16 PM   #571
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To the true believers, you are either a Trumpster or a Trump Hater. Any criticism of The Donald means that you hate him. There is no middle ground.
Elysian is an antifa. He's not on middle ground so don't insult our intelligence by suggesting he is.
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Old 01-19-2019, 05:27 PM   #572
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P.S. You called ET an "ultra liberal". By all evidence, I would say that he is more conservative than The Donald.
I try to pick up where I exit sometimes, and not always address all points in the same day because yes I miss as much as the next guy. So in this point I would suggest that President Donald J. Trump was a democrat until his party went socialist, JFK was a proud democrat but a true capitalist. Today the left has gone and in transition of communist, everyone in the resistance is already there and will stop at nothing to getting there. So if you can't hold your head up and be proud to be an Amercan because the change that you want is not American I can't post what you should do because it will tick off PA but you know.
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Old 01-19-2019, 05:29 PM   #573
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Elysian is an antifa. He's not on middle ground so don't insult our intelligence by suggesting he is.
Here is an exchange we had last year regarding this exact same issue:

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He knows a better deal is out there on DACA.
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Maybe we weren't seeing the same news during the DACA/Wall cycle... holding out for a better deal? He is going to get a WORSE deal once the GOP loses the house or none at all... how is that pragmatic?
So... tucks...

Call me a Trump-Hater all you want.

If you would have listened to this "Trump-Hater" you would have gotten more than you're getting now, pointblankperiod.

You're an apologist... you throw out reason... and things you've said in the past... to be nothing more than a Trump Echo chamber.

You're sheeple.
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Old 01-19-2019, 05:36 PM   #574
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More gems from about a year ago:

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had anybody else been elected these so called dreamers would have been given the full meal deal with no questions asked or stipulations. The wall and anything else Trump can negotiate will be nothing but gravy. The wall will be a guarantee.
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Trump turned that down yesterday. The new gang of six deal actually seemed pretty good overall... its probably very similar to what will end up happening and Trump will declare it a victory while not endorsing it.
Crazy how much things can change in a year...

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ReplayRandall was right about one thing... the popcorn...
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Old 01-19-2019, 05:43 PM   #575
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Everyone in favor of open borders please stand up.
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:00 PM   #576
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Breitbart reports that Chuck and Nancy immediately rejected Trump's offer, and that the offer has a lot of anti-amnesty, anti-DACA Trump supporters very upset with him.

Or is that former Trump supporters?

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/20...n-demand-more/
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:05 PM   #577
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Just the non-essentials (roughly 28%) ...
Air traffic controllers must be essential since they are being required to continue working, but they are not being paid. (Reagan doctrine?)
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:09 PM   #578
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This smacks of a guy desperate* to end this and save face...

Where was this a month ago? It seems like a perfectly sound policy suggestion?

Oh yeah... it wasn't about policy it was about pandering his base*... look where its gotten him.

*: Which is why he's publicly rejected this several times in the past month until now.
You've got to wonder how Doofus Drumph can be such a political DUNCE when he is such a BRILLIANT businessman.
After all, he started with next to nothing and became a SELF-MADE billionaire.
So he's gotta have a fair amount of street smarts.

What's this?
He pretends he's a self-made billionaire, but he's really a spoiled-rotten dummy, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, who has squandered Daddy's money over and over and over again
Not to mention the fact that he has declared bankruptcy so many times that no respectable bank would touch him with a ten-foot pole.
For the last decade, he's been forced to borrow from the Russians, you say.
Hmmmmm
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:34 PM   #579
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balls in the dems court now. the people know that Trump has made an attempt to end the shutdown. The dem's not so much. It's actually not a bad deal for them considering even Chucky voted for the wall in 2013. But the Trump hatred marches on I'm sure.
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:40 PM   #580
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balls in the dems court now. the people know that Trump has made an attempt to end the shutdown. The dem's not so much. It's actually not a bad deal for them considering even Chucky voted for the wall in 2013. But the Trump hatred marches on I'm sure.
This was how it went down:

1) I cause a bunch of damage & chaos
2) I ask for everything I want
3) I pinky swear to undo a tiny bit of the damage & chaos I caused

So much winning.....

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Old 01-19-2019, 06:48 PM   #581
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balls in the dems court now. the people know that Trump has made an attempt to end the shutdown. The dem's not so much. It's actually not a bad deal for them considering even Chucky voted for the wall in 2013. But the Trump hatred marches on I'm sure.
Democrats said no.

Before Trump started talking...
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:56 PM   #582
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Democrats said no.

Before Trump started talking...
of course, that is why many americans dislike the dim politicians ... hopefully they can change the constitution so that all 'present' can vote, otherwise their future does not look promising.
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:57 PM   #583
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He is a fraud of the highest order...

I think that's the reason for some of the knee-jerk responses when he continuously fails. People don't like to admit they got took.
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Old 01-19-2019, 07:06 PM   #585
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You guys are a gas.

When WE support Trump we are apologists.
When Ely doesn't he is a free thinker.
Not close to in touch with reality.

Clicknow must be here for the first time today - his post is so out of touch it is funny.

And if Clocker doesn't think Ely is a Trump hater, he is beyond help.
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