and who says u shouldn't know what the odds will be in advance

[mmmjjjj]

So did the ml makers job again
After he blundered these today


So now create a new line according to what u see

Eg if I think the horse is 5-2 then he will draw at least
23 percent of the money,

so now all ur other contenders should equal
77 percent in total for the all of their lines

Adjust


What they should be approaching gate before loading

gulf

3-- 5 for sure 2-1. In top
two betting choices — possible fav

8-- 2 most likely 6-1 ----- may get into the top three betting
Even with paco jumping ship

sam houston

1--5 will go chalk got him 7-5 or so

ok gl

[Suff]

Originally Posted by mmmjjjj

Eg if I think the horse is 5-2

Nothing has an effect on horizontal payouts more than Ml's imho.

The double probables convincely demonstrate that. What I left out of the low win prices that Looch's single rainbow ticket were, was that the ML's on those horses were 2-3 times what the off odds were. So it works that way as well.

[Suff]

Originally Posted by mmmjjjj

So did the ml makers job again
After he blundered these today

Join the club of players who say that? You're explaining it as if you have a genie-in-a-bottle.

"Look what I found" . An edge in the ML's? not news really.

[mmmjjjj]

Originally Posted by Suff

Nothing has an effect on horizontal payouts more than Ml's imho.

The double probables convincely demonstrate that. What I left out of the low win prices that Looch's single rainbow ticket were, was that the ML's on those horses were 2-3 times what the off odds were. So it works that way as well.

Yes

And I half agree with the statement.
But u have to be present on race day to put that
In effect
Athlough( the doubles and pick 3’s and all the other
Win place past double pools don’t hold the real
bot
Player movements so it’s of no value to me)

I’m saying you should know way in advance
What the lines should be from ur own creations


At least (24 hours) before post before scratches

As it will give you a clear edge on what to
Do after scratches come out

[mmmjjjj]

Originally Posted by Suff

Join the club of players who say that? You're explaining it as if you have a genie-in-a-bottle.

"Look what I found" . An edge in the ML's? not news really.

Suff ur missing the point
Nobody is saying I found any kind of edge in the
Morning line.

Reread post #17

Stay open

[mmmjjjj]

so here are a couple for u

oaklawan

race 4-- runnin ray 8-1 ml------realistically he should be 4-1 i got him at 16 percent with take and all
even with talamo jumping off

delta
race 3 -- stop the friend ml 8-1 ml --- realistically should be 9-2\( still hesitant but close enough)
that is what i got him at 13 percent with take and all

so now u almost got the take beat on both before loading

what do you do ??

are they enough to throw out or are they plays ??

do you bet against on the exchanges or not ??

only u could make that call

gl

[mmmjjjj]

charles town

race 2

#1 eddie gift --8-1ml-- so now that we know he should be 5-2 here
with a 23 percent take

what is the best course of action ??

u decide


race 6-- tel aviv --4-1 ml--- now that u know he should share favouritism

at 7-5 with a 33 percent take

what to do ??

the sharpies should know

on both


gl

[CheckMark]

What is this thread showing? I’m super confused...

[mmmjjjj]

Originally Posted by mmmjjjj

so here are a couple for u

oaklawan

race 4-- runnin ray 8-1 ml------realistically he should be 4-1 i got him at 16 percent with take and all
even with talamo jumping off

delta
race 3 -- stop the friend ml 8-1 ml --- realistically should be 9-2\( still hesitant but close enough)
that is what i got him at 13 percent with take and all

so now u almost got the take beat on both before loading

what do you do ??

are they enough to throw out or are they plays ??

do you bet against on the exchanges or not ??

only u could make that call

gl

With the scratch of the #9 horse expect

Stop the friend to be closer to 5-2 now

Mm

[mmmjjjj]

Originally Posted by CheckMark

What is this thread showing? I’m super confused...

Do a re- read kid U will figure it out
Go through each post one by one

[castaway01]

Originally Posted by mmmjjjj

charles town

race 2

#1 eddie gift --8-1ml-- so now that we know he should be 5-2 here
with a 23 percent take

what is the best course of action ??

u decide


race 6-- tel aviv --4-1 ml--- now that u know he should share favouritism

at 7-5 with a 33 percent take

what to do ??

the sharpies should know

on both


gl

Charles Town's take is 17.25%, not 33%.

[mmmjjjj]

Originally Posted by castaway01

Charles Town's take is 17.25%, not 33%.

Cast

Im implying how much percentage of money the horse should
be drawing from the Win pool itself( his take)

Not the track take!!!!



So once u figure that out , u create a new line
For the rest of ur contenders based on the
67 percent left to work with.
( assuming you believe what I’m saying)


And all of a sudden every other horse is seen by in a new
Light

If u beat the take u beat the race
That simple

Thanks mm

[mmmjjjj]

Someone forgot to mention
To the linesmaker that

Private party in the 7th at philly

Is going chalkk today with a 25 percent (2-1)
Take.

Even after the bashing last out

Be extremely careful if this does not happen

[mmmjjjj]

We head to Gulfstream

Race 12– elite repeal —8-1 ml—- my line 4-1 (16 percent take)

Well he obviously botched this one as he has him
5th choice.

What to do?? Did He need the race , is it go to time??
Does the layout favour him??

All pertinent questions when u have a (take )horse
Staring at you in the face

Is it possible he takes over favouritism??
Possible but simulations are holding bay so maybe not

Gl

[green80]

Handicapping the handicappers