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06-25-2020, 11:47 PM
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06-25-2020, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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Could he be joking again? Remember this, FanDan?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...dc-coronavirus
These don't sound like "jokes" to me...
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06-26-2020, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sammy the sage
so the CDC just announced....CNN just now on the Cuomo show crowing that the numbers for THE infected are indeed MOST likely 10x's higher than what's being reported.
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Not sure why that would surprise anyone since there are plenty who haven't been tested.
Do you know for sure that sometime today, you didn't become an asymtomatic carrier/spreader?
Or do you believe that community spread isn't a problem and/or that people who aren't showing really sick, or asymptomatic, are not a vector for community spread?
WH gets tested daily or every few days. I guess they consider it important.........for themselves.
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06-26-2020, 01:05 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Please accept my wholehearted thanks and gratitude.
You have truly evolved into the conspiracy crackpot you promised to be.
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You don't even know what you're talking about. You never address what is written, only what is cemented inside your head.
Nobody said anything about conspiracy theories...I was just stating what I wish would happen. I didn't say it WAS happening. Learn to read, braindead & brainwashed.
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06-26-2020, 01:58 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
I'll tell you what's happening to this country...the majority of the citizens are scared SHITLESS. I spend a considerable amount of time in grocery stores...mine and others. 99% of the customers there wear masks, but an occasional "unmasked" customer will invariably walk in undetected...and you wouldn't believe the commotion that this isolated case causes among the other customers. Customers run to the store managers to complain about the lone "lawless" customer...and some customers insist that they'll never shop at that store again. I was at a grocery store today, where a deli employee dared to momentarily pull his mask slightly downward and expose his nose...no doubt so he could breathe a little after wearing the darned thing all day long. This caused a freaking RIOT to break out among the deli customers...and the poor deli employee returned his mask post-haste to its original position, breathing be damned.
No matter how "optimistic" the politicians and some of the media may be...this isn't translating well to the general public. The people out there are still scared to DEATH...and their fear isn't going anywhere anytime soon, regardless of what the "braver" among us may say, or do.
In Illinois, the optimistic Governor is opening up the state's casinos tomorrow. My guess is that a search warrant will be needed in order to locate the casino customers.
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Spot on, thask
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06-26-2020, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Texas has 254 counties
4 are affected by this
Its the end of the world isn't it??
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It depends where you're standing, "who feels the sneeze".
Do the other counties outside of the major hospital system have advanced ICUs and qualified staff, and how far away are they?
(Low ICU capacity affects non-covid-19 patients the most, esp when your largest hospital system get overloaded.)
If a loved one suffered an illness that required bed availabilty in an ICU (for covid-19 or something else) which had reached capacity or was past capacity, you may be subject to worse care. (spilling out into adjacent wards, the hallway, an operating theatre, with skeleton staffing) .
It would be "actual" end of the world for some who don't make it, due to less-than ideal conditions and not enough staff or equipment. And that does happen. Hospital systems can become brittle as spun glass when severely overloaded.
Last edited by clicknow; 06-26-2020 at 03:47 AM.
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06-26-2020, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by clicknow
It depends where you're standing, "who feels the sneeze".
Do the other counties outside of the major hospital system have advanced ICUs and qualified staff, and how far away are they?
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I live within 25 minutes driving distance to 6 counties outside of Dallas county. Most have qualified ICUs. Collin, Denton, Tarrant counties have hospitals and ICUs as good as any Dallas has too offer
Rockwall may be included in that group, not sure.
Kaufman and Ellis, doubtful.
One thing is for sure, we have the facilities here and plenty of beds.
One stat I read was we have a low rate of deaths per 100k from coronavirus. About 1/8th of New York's
I'm not worried about the virus.... And I had it early on. Just get over it and get on with the economy
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06-26-2020, 08:22 AM
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So, the CDC now says that for every Covid positive, 10x that amount are positive but untested. So HCAP's charts are off by a factor of 10. 2.4M positives are now 26.4M positives. Unfortunately for Cappy, that means that the death rate is not 5% but 0.45%, or akin to a bad flu seasons.
Another fact is death rate among 65 and over. For the flu, those dying from it varies year to year and is between 70-85% of the total deaths. For COVID, it is 80%. Not much different really. In bad flu seasons we can have upwards of 80M getting it. So far we are at 26.4M COVID.
When you look at the real numbers, it isn't all that much different than the flu. Yes, it spreads faster and is a little deadlier, but is it worth destroying everything we've built for 200 years over? That seems insane.
Last edited by tucker6; 06-26-2020 at 08:35 AM.
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06-26-2020, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
So, the CDC now says that for every Covid positive, 10x that amount are positive but untested. So HCAP's charts are off by a factor of 10. 2.4M positives are now 26.4M positives. Unfortunately for Cappy, that means that the death rate is not 5% but 0.45%, or akin to a bad flu seasons.
Another fact is death rate among 65 and over. For the flu, those dying from it varies year to year and is between 70-85% of the total deaths. For COVID, it is 80%. Not much different really. In bad flu seasons we can have upwards of 80M getting it. So far we are at 26.4M COVID.
When you look at the real numbers, it isn't all that much different than the flu. Yes, it spreads faster and is a little deadlier, but is it worth destroying everything we've built for 200 years over? That seems insane.
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you need to pick and choose what to believe from CDC and WHO
this clearly does not meet the media narrative and will get little airtime
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06-26-2020, 09:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tucker6
When you look at the real numbers, it isn't all that much different than the flu. Yes, it spreads faster and is a little deadlier, but is it worth destroying everything we've built for 200 years over? That seems insane.
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Not if every fiber of your being is precision-tuned to finding ways to make sure Trump loses in November.
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06-26-2020, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Not if every fiber of your being is precision-tuned to finding ways to make sure Trump loses in November.
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chaos and fear are the democrat platform
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06-26-2020, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by davew
chaos and fear are the democrat platform
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Hammer meet nail.
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06-26-2020, 10:29 AM
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Pinellas County, Florida is reporting 75& of the deaths are in nursing homes right now.
the majority of their cases are from people under 40 that are walking into hospitals
just judging from what happened in New York and the rest of the northeast, deaths have lagged confirmed cases 5-6 weeks. i pray that there are some new therapeutic methods to help treat the people that get sick.
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06-26-2020, 03:19 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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There’s some unofficial models that say Texans had COVID as far back as 2018?
People with antibodies being found that cannot pinpoint being ill.
Heard a guy on the radio who had pneumonia in early 19 and was hospitalized 3 days. He went to a testing site 2 weeks ago. They found antibodies. They checked samples from early 19 hospital trip and they were positive. As far as he knows he infected nobody
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06-26-2020, 04:04 PM
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$2 Showbettor
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: The Villages
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A FEDERAL DATASET created to track the toll of the coronavirus in nursing homes nationwide has instead muddied the picture
The nation's 15,400 nursing homes are not reporting the fatalities accurately to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services(CMS) who has been tasked to maintain the database.
https://www.usnews.com/news/healthie...-nursing-homes
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