Religious

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by Actor

That doesn't really answer the question now, does it? You're deflecting.

However, I'm unaware of any criteria by which the "true flock" are supposed to judge which are "false shepherds and blind guides" and which are true ones.

Don't worry. Boxcar will lead the way.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Don't worry. Boxcar will lead the way.

I worry that Boxcar is a false prophet.

[hcap]

Amazing! Nothing has changed in over 11,000 posts.







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[TJDave]

Originally Posted by hcap

Not wanting to rain on your parade but I have serious doubts that Albert ever said this.

I would say the same about most everything atributed to most anyone in the bible...Of which Einstein is proven to have said:

"the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."

[Actor]

Originally Posted by TJDave

Not wanting to rain on your parade but I have serious doubts that Albert ever said this.

brainyquote.com attributes it to him, which brings up the question of how reliable brainyquote is. Unless one could quickly find a source for it confirming or debunking it definitively would probably take too much time and effort.

[hcap]

From Wiki.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio...lbert_Einstein

He said he believed in the "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said, "an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.

Einstein was raised by secular Jewish parents. In his Autobiographical Notes, Einstein wrote that he had gradually lost his faith early in childhood:

. . . I came—though the child of entirely irreligious (Jewish) parents—to a deep religiousness, which, however, reached an abrupt end at the age of twelve. Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached the conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true. The consequence was a positively fanatic orgy of freethinking coupled with the impression that youth is intentionally being deceived by the state through lies; it was a crushing impression. Mistrust of every kind of authority grew out of this experience, a skeptical attitude toward the convictions that were alive in any specific social environment—an attitude that has never again left me, even though, later on, it has been tempered by a better insight into the causal connections.


I do not disagree at all.

[Actor]

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[TJDave]

Much mileage has been made of Einstein's purported agnosticism. However, his private persona clearly shows a disdain for religion and deity.


Written shortly before his death:

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2009/10...-weakness.html

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by Actor

brainyquote.com attributes it to him, which brings up the question of how reliable brainyquote is. Unless one could quickly find a source for it confirming or debunking it definitively would probably take too much time and effort.

Einstein played the violin and would have understood the value of practice.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Actor

That doesn't really answer the question now, does it? You're deflecting.

However, I'm unaware of any criteria by which the "true flock" are supposed to judge which are "false shepherds and blind guides" and which are true ones.

Of course, you're unaware. You know virtually nothing of the gospel message, nor do you want to.

Boxcar

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Of course, you're unaware. You know virtually nothing of the gospel message, nor do you want to.

Boxcar

Again you are deflecting. Are there or are there not any instructions in holy writ on how to tell the false prophets/messiahs from the real thing?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Actor

Again you are deflecting. Are there or are there not any instructions in holy writ on how to tell the false prophets/messiahs from the real thing?

For starters, read Deut chapters 13 and 18.

Where are the other Christians on this forum? No one knows this?

Good grief, I'm gone for one day and the Religious thread dropped out of sight down to page 2 of this forum. I had to actually search for it. (I thought maybe PA deleted it.)

Boxcar

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Good grief, I'm gone for one day ...

Boxcar

You were gone for almost three days, 2 days 22 hours 27 minutes to be exact. Do the math. Don't forget the change from Standard Time to Daylight Savings Time.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

For starters, read Deut chapters 13 and 18.

Boxcar

What I get from these is that the false prophets will not be subtle, but instead will be obvious. Meaning that a false prophet would never do something like declare himself the second coming of Christ. Therefore those who make such declarations must be true prophets.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Deut chapters 13 and 18.

Boxcar

Deut 18:11 uses the word necromancer, which is of Latin origin and dates back to the 3rd century C.E. What word was used in the original Hebrew and Greek?