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04-05-2009, 08:06 PM
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Mullins under investigation in NY
When will this guy learn?
From Thoroughbred Times:
Mullins is under investigation for detention barn violation.
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...tion-barn.aspx
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04-05-2009, 08:22 PM
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Why Should He "learn"
If the racing jurisdictions do not administer serious penalties for those who break the rules, why should the rule breakers change. If there are no penalties, those wor run clean run at a disadvantage. If someone gets seriously hurt in the pocketbook, they might not repeatedly violate the integrity of the game (if there is such a thing).
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04-05-2009, 08:44 PM
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For those of you that don't know...Air Power is a fairly innocuous liquid administered to help open the airways....think liquid Vick's Vapo Rub. It's generally administered using an oral syringe....which is either a big stainless steel job or a large volume plastic syringe WITHOUT a needle on it. That article leaves the impression that Mullins intended to give an injection, and that's probably not the case at all.
That being said...if he violated detention barn rules, throw the book at him.
Last edited by Brogan; 04-05-2009 at 08:48 PM.
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04-05-2009, 08:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warren Henry
If the racing jurisdictions do not administer serious penalties for those who break the rules, why should the rule breakers change. If there are no penalties, those wor run clean run at a disadvantage. If someone gets seriously hurt in the pocketbook, they might not repeatedly violate the integrity of the game (if there is such a thing).
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Couldnt agree more...trainers can get out of things so easily....tie the punishments to the owners as well and you can guarantee it wouldnt happen as much....you could also get the same result by suspending the horse as well
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04-05-2009, 09:04 PM
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Just as with Big Brown, Iavaronne is shocked and dismayed (my inference from his response to the Mullins allegation) by the attention potentially turning to the trainer rather than the horse. Didn't the stresses of "investment banking" teach him anything? Oh wait, he was a broker at a marginal firm, not an actual investment banker. Shame on the media for misreporting that for so long. I'm sure Mr. Iavorrone tried to correct it repeatedly.
“If you bet on horses, I would call you an idiot,” the Times quoted the trainer (Mullins) as saying. - from 2005.
At the time, Robert Bone was one of Mullins's largest clients. I've read Mr. Bone likes to bet on horses (Blood Horse interview). What does that make Mr. Bone in Mr. Mullins's opinion?
When Mr. Mullins was winning at a 35% to 40% clip a few yrs ago, he was asked how he was able to post such phenomenal numbers. He indicated that he "worked harder" than everyone else. I'm sure. Most trainers are very lazy, taking weekends and federal holidays off.
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04-05-2009, 09:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brogan
For those of you that don't know...Air Power is a fairly innocuous liquid administered to help open the airways....think liquid Vick's Vapo Rub. It's generally administered using an oral syringe....which is either a big stainless steel job or a large volume plastic syringe WITHOUT a needle on it. That article leaves the impression that Mullins intended to give an injection, and that's probably not the case at all.
That being said...if he violated detention barn rules, throw the book at him.
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Wow thats pretty tough to throw the book at him for a minor infraction. And yes i said Minor.....
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04-05-2009, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike
Just as with Big Brown, Iavaronne is shocked and dismayed (my inference from his response to the Mullins allegation) by the attention potentially turning to the trainer rather than the horse. Didn't the stresses of "investment banking" teach him anything? Oh wait, he was a broker at a marginal firm, not an actual investment banker. Shame on the media for misreporting that for so long. I'm sure Mr. Iavorrone tried to correct it repeatedly.
“If you bet on horses, I would call you an idiot,” the Times quoted the trainer (Mullins) as saying. - from 2005.
At the time, Robert Bone was one of Mullins's largest clients. I've read Mr. Bone likes to bet on horses (Blood Horse interview). What does that make Mr. Bone in Mr. Mullins's opinion?
When Mr. Mullins was winning at a 35% to 40% clip a few yrs ago, he was asked how he was able to post such phenomenal numbers. He indicated that he "worked harder" than everyone else. I'm sure. Most trainers are very lazy, taking weekends and federal holidays off.
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Good points.....I believe he was also quoted comparing horses to race cars.....definitely gave me the warm and fuzzies....
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04-05-2009, 09:21 PM
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Absolutely nothing minor about thumbing your nose to the rules and administering medication in the detention barn. If that is what happened.
Kind of the whole point of having a detention barn...
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04-05-2009, 09:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty Capuletti
Absolutely nothing minor about thumbing your nose to the rules and administering medication in the detention barn. If that is what happened.
Kind of the whole point of having a detention barn...
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So harsh! Jeff was just out hustling his fellow trainers (i.e., if said allegations are true). My sense is there's some degenerate gambler behind this, still plotting to get Mullins in trouble with racing officials.
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04-05-2009, 10:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mineshaft
Wow thats pretty tough to throw the book at him for a minor infraction. And yes i said Minor.....
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Minor?!?!?!?
Every trainer, hell every bettor knows that you dont bring chit into the D barn. A trainer got a month for bringing in yogurt for cripes sakes. This is a major violation, as it should be.
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04-05-2009, 11:36 PM
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Mullins spends one day in New York and gets caught. Bravo to the NYRA authorities. So what the hell are the California authorities doing? He's there virtually all the time. They should be chastised for their lack of action.
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04-05-2009, 11:46 PM
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Leave them Cali people alone. They mandated the cure-all poly tracks and now they are done with having to babysit the game.
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Originally Posted by Valuist
Mullins spends one day in New York and gets caught. Bravo to the NYRA authorities. So what the hell are the California authorities doing? He's there virtually all the time. They should be chastised for their lack of action.
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04-05-2009, 11:47 PM
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we should all take up bridgejumping at oaklawn, you too, rich perloff!
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04-06-2009, 02:44 AM
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Air Power, ALSO syringe
“NYRA security personnel advised the stewards that Mr. Mullins was observed attempting to administer an over-the-counter product called Air Power to [Gato Go Win] in the security barn. He had ****ALSO apparently taken a syringe into the security barn."
LIFETIME BAN FROM RACING.
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04-06-2009, 06:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mineshaft
Wow thats pretty tough to throw the book at him for a minor infraction. And yes i said Minor.....
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If you want the rules to work as intended, you mete out the prescribed punishments.
When I said throw the book at him, I meant give him the penalty specified for the infraction...not some watered down version.
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