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12-26-2007, 08:40 PM
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DimeSupers Really Are!
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,095
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Super High Five- How Big Was The Pool?
Off: 4:37 | 6 Furlongs | 3 Year Olds And Up | Maiden Claiming ($25,000 - $22,500) | Purse: $20,260
#HorseJockeyWeightWinPlaceShow8Home of the BoldGomez G K1209.005.003.604Danny Templeton (IRE)Leparoux J R1228.205.606Press ReleaseValenzuela P A1245.80
Times in 5ths: :211 :433 :553 1:081
Times in 100ths: :21.27 :43.60 :55.66 1:08.35
Scratched: Maria's Cat
Also ran: The Emerald King, Court Rule, Salty Scholar, Risky Russ, Road to the Throne, Hennessy's Hope, Big River Ruler, Forest Edge, Custom Design and Tri Jah Luv
Winning Trainer: Miller Peter - Owner: Roxie Racing or Schlein
$1 Exacta (8-4) Paid $35.30
$1 Trifecta (8-4-6) Paid $237.70
$2 Daily Double (6-8) Paid $77.00 Daily Double Pool $155,767
$1 Pick 3 (5-6-8) 3 Correct Paid $688.40 Pick 3 Pool $191,136
$2 Pick 6 (3-1-10-5-6-8) 5 Correct Paid $644.80 Pick 6 Pool $257,688
$2 Pick 6 (3-1-10-5-6-8) 6 Correct Paid $28,591.80 Pick 6 Pool
$1 Place Pick All (9 OF 9) Paid $3,706.70
$1 Pick 4 (10-5-6-8) 4 Correct Paid $2,674.00 Pick 4 Pool $647,590
$1 Super High Five (NO WINNERS) Paid
Santa Anita Park Attendance: 30156 Mutuel Pool: $4,447,149
ITW Mutuel Pool: $3,392,175 ISW Mutuel Pool: $7,277,165
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12-26-2007, 08:45 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bird Rock
Posts: 16,697
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12-26-2007, 08:50 PM
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Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 15
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where did you get those results???
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12-26-2007, 08:51 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,572
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Santa Anita might have momentarily moved ahead of TVG in incompetence!
Super Hi-Five
Could you bet it at..............
TVG?--------No
TwinSpires?----------No
Youbet?--------No
Anywhere in Vegas?--------No
2 other phone wagering accounts I have?--------No
2 different track based wagering systems my friend uses?--------No
8th race super pool = 206K
7th race super pool = 204K
6th race super pool = 202K
9th race Hi-5 pool = 54K
I wonder why racetracks think they need slots to survive.
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12-26-2007, 09:05 PM
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DimeSupers Really Are!
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,095
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Thanks for the figure, Bigmack
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Originally Posted by bigmack
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Couldn't find it @DRF.com
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12-26-2007, 10:11 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,991
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmack
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I see that $11,303. was taken out. Kinda nice for the track as the days may pile up til its hit. Guess they learned from their manipulation of the PK6 race sequence for carryovers.
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12-26-2007, 10:46 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,622
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Quote:
Originally Posted by point given
I see that $11,303. was taken out. Kinda nice for the track
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Where did that money go? Consolation payouts? Additional track vig? Frank Stronach Appreciation Society?
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12-27-2007, 12:32 AM
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Just Deplorable
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lebanon, Ohio
Posts: 8,068
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It went where all the other takeout goes. No consolations, the remaining $43,000 is carried over til Friday.
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12-27-2007, 01:43 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: San Diego
Posts: 234
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My OTB has the walk-up voucher-based machines. The Super High Five was offered at the machines as a one-dollar PEN. I assume this naming convention follows along the lines of exa, tri, super, and now ... PEN (for pentafecta???).
As I was cashing-out, the old Hispanic man next to me asked for Race 9 results to check his Super High Five picks. (I listened and thought ... yeah, right). The OTB could not produce race results from their machines. Not programmed yet?
The Superfecta bet was off the board (replaced by the Super High Five) and this old man got madder and madder by the minute. He thought he was betting a superfecta and may have had the first four (but not the fifth). Judging from his slurred speach, he probably already had the fifth. Anyway, he taught me a few new Mexican cuss-words. He called the ticket taker a "Hijo del Playa" and stormed off.
I witnessed more angst about losing the superfecta than grief about the new lotto-type pentafecta.
There's an old saying about state lotteries ... they're a tax on stupid people or those who're math-challenged. I'm ranking the pentafecta somewhere between a state lottery and me picking the winner of next year's pig-flying derby.
So, there is a chance.
(I need to drink less)
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12-27-2007, 05:15 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 327
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For people that claim to be big racing fans and players, those attacking Santa Anita aren't giving too much quarter. The bet was developed from player focus group meetings SA conducts regularly. The complaint was that the .10 super has syphoned the payoffs of the play down to the point where the original serious Super players were unhappy. The bet was developed for them and the carryover concept applied.
Programming is being quickly adapted by the ADW's, etc., and should be in-line very soon according to Ric Hammerle.
Considering that multi-race and multi-horse wagering innovations and wrinkles are the single greatest source of handle growth in the game, you would think there would be some appreciation for the new play. As little as we all think of MEC as a racing concern, they have been out front developing wagering ideas. The Magna 5 is anticipated for its' arrival every winter, and this bet has potential to be a winner as well.
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12-27-2007, 12:39 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,622
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rastajenk
It went where all the other takeout goes. No consolations, the remaining $43,000 is carried over til Friday.
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So that $54K was the gross pool? Takeout less than 21% - not bad. Looked further and found the major CA tracks take a flat 20.18% from all exotic pools. That's one for Lalaland ... relatively, anyway.
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12-27-2007, 12:45 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bird Rock
Posts: 16,697
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelso
So that $54K was the gross pool? Takeout less than 21% - not bad. Looked further and found the major CA tracks take a flat 20.18% from all exotic pools. That's one for Lalaland ... relatively, anyway.
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Where've you been? That's life in this game. What does being CA or LA have anything to do with it?
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/stati...out&header=off
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12-27-2007, 01:15 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,622
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmack
Where've you been?
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For all but the past 18 months or so, not involved with racing. Guess you haven't noticed all the questions I ask.
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Originally Posted by bigmack
What does being CA or LA have anything to do with it?
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Not a low-maintenence state. Guess you haven't noticed that, either.
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12-27-2007, 01:48 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bird Rock
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelso
That's one for Lalaland ... relatively, anyway.
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I haven't noticed squat about you. What more do you know of "Lalaland" that qualifies your statement?
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12-27-2007, 03:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,352
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rastajenk
It went where all the other takeout goes. No consolations, the remaining $43,000 is carried over til Friday.
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But when the bet is ultimately hit, are they going to end up applying the takeout rate again to the carried over amount??
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