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09-23-2007, 04:13 PM
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Overheard on the backstretch at TDN:
Owner1: "Let's show those sumsabitches. Turn off our signal. Let 'em find something else to bet on."
Owner2: "Damn right! No signal - no rebates. They'll learn."
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09-24-2007, 07:04 AM
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I wonder if I can put this in perspective. If I sold a product that was very adaptable to the world wide web. How would I market it?
1. Would I put it on world wide web and make make it available to any one in the entire world right from the comfort and convenience and their own home.
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2. Would restrict my sales to only those that are in convenient driving distance to N. Randall Oh. And then expect my customers to spend 4 or 5 hours a day inside a building with a ugly steel beamed interior that looks like the insides of a factory, painted a in dark colors and gun metal gray.
Why if I'm and Ohio horseman I'd opt for no. 2 of course. Do these guys have enough sense to poor urine out of their riding boots?
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09-24-2007, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeDee
I wonder if I can put this in perspective. If I sold a product that was very adaptable to the world wide web. How would I market it?
1. Would I put it on world wide web and make make it available to any one in the entire world right from the comfort and convenience and their own home.
Or
2. Would restrict my sales to only those that are in convenient driving distance to N. Randall Oh. And then expect my customers to spend 4 or 5 hours a day inside a building with a ugly steel beamed interior that looks like the insides of a factory, painted a in dark colors and gun metal gray.
Why if I'm and Ohio horseman I'd opt for no. 2 of course. Do these guys have enough sense to poor urine out of their riding boots?
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Uh....without the pools, there are no purses.....it sounds like someone needs a nap.
John
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09-24-2007, 09:07 AM
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I haven't heard one positive comment yet about the Ohio horsemen's position.
I'm just not getting thier stance. What do they expect to gain?
Can someone play devil's advocate here so we can understand?
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09-24-2007, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeDee
Why if I'm and Ohio horseman I'd opt for no. 2 of course. Do these guys have enough sense to poor urine out of their riding boots?
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Great post 
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09-24-2007, 11:50 PM
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Not to sound like I support what the Oho horsemen did, but they did not shut off any of the major ADW's licensed in this country. How much handle actually went through the sites that were shut off? Are we making a mountain out of a mole hill here?
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09-25-2007, 07:19 AM
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In response to: john del riccio
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Uh....without the pools, there are no purses.....it sounds like someone needs a nap.
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Last time I checked, money from the ADW's goes into the pools.
I don't know you well enough to insult you John, so I'll just ignore your "nap" comment.
In response to:NoCal Boy In a earlier post Ian posted the following:
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I don't know about the 33% vs the 50% but this is exactly what they told me they were going to do back in February, cut off all the ADWs.
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If the ultimate intent of the horsemen is to cut off all ADW's then I don't think to much is being made of this. Especially when you consider this statement along with the recent legislation in AZ.
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09-25-2007, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeDee
In response to:NoCal Boy In a earlier post Ian posted the following:
If the ultimate intent of the horsemen is to cut off all ADW's then I don't think to much is being made of this. Especially when you consider this statement along with the recent legislation in AZ.
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Ohio is a complicated place for ADW's, remember that although being sold to Churchill, AmericaTab is still an Ohio company, paying taxes and employing people. Also, Beulah and River have not joined Thistle (they used to own AmericaTab). The harness tracks also have political clout. While the current administration is anti-casino gambling--they don't appear to be anti-horse racing. Maybe Magna Stupidity is contagious and that's behind the Thistle horsemen.
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11-22-2007, 04:04 AM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21917837
Horse Farms: Gambling Policy Destroying Industry
NBC 4
updated 17 minutes ago
XENIA, Ohio -- A decline in betting at Ohio racetracks over the past few years has meant smaller purses for winning horses and their breeders, many of whom are under pressure to scale back their farms or sell them to developers.
"I'd love to keep this as a horse farm," said Tom McCann, co-owner of Golden Glen Farm near this southwest Ohio city. "But I'm afraid I'll be joining the growing list of people who have shut their farms down."
Two years ago, Golden Glen was home to 32 thoroughbred race horses. Today, the 157-acre farm has just 13 horses, and its financial hopes ride on a promising yearling bay stud named Cowboy.
Breeders and owners say Ohioans' objections to legalized gambling are in part responsible for the uncertain future of horse farms. When voters said no to slot machines at racetracks in 2006, they also said no to millions of dollars in state revenues and no to Ohio's increasingly hard-pressed horse farms, industry advocates say. Ohio voters also rejected casino gambling issues in 1990 and 1996.
~more at the link~
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11-22-2007, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21917837
Horse Farms: Gambling Policy Destroying Industry
NBC 4
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XENIA, Ohio -- A decline in betting at Ohio racetracks over the past few years has meant smaller purses for winning horses and their breeders, many of whom are under pressure to scale back their farms or sell them to developers.
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Reminds me of the story about the little boy that killed both his parents and then asked the court for mercy because he was an orphan...
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11-22-2007, 09:34 AM
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Ian at least the s-bred horse people are with you on PTC. IMHO the t-bred people in OHIO just don't get it.
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11-22-2007, 10:20 AM
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I loved this line
McCann said he and his wife, Judy, will tough it out - not only for themselves and their five employees, but for the sake of the environment as well.
If the horsemen were serious about making Ohio racing work (and feel free to substitute another sate like Illinois or La), they'd sell the damned signal.
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11-22-2007, 10:39 AM
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Ohio Horsemen Analogy
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Reminds me of the story about the little boy that killed both his parents and then asked the court for mercy because he was an orphan...
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Ian: Right on the button! They keep cutting off signals or refusing to sign new contracts (via their lack of dealing with PTC), yet they then have the audacity to "cry in their milk" after behaving in this manner. I cannot help but think the rank and file have little idea what is really going on with the Ohio Horsemen leadership (Dave Basler, et all) who are ENTIRELY out of control. I know for a FACT that River Downs does not support the horsemen's position on this, and their actions are endangering their very existence! 
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11-23-2007, 10:10 AM
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All the horsemen's actions will do,
in the end, is cause other tracks to realize they didn't need their (Ohio) signal anyway. The horsemen backing this action have taken a sh_t in their mess kits. ( an old Marine Corp saying) Meaning you don't take a crap where you eat.
As others have said, someone is not playing from a full deck. 
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