State Ordered Health Care......Social Medicine?

[DJofSD]

I see a run for the border for those living in close proximity to it.

Yes. But it's getting to the point now where there's no place to run to. When the NWO has completely eliminated all differences, what are you doing to do?

[ljb]

Originally Posted by boxcar

You closet commies don't get it, do you? The "drain on the economy" refrain is just another way of saying "for the public welfare" or "in the public interest". People have a moral obligation to take personal responsibility for their decisions. If someone chooses to not protect himself, then he personally must be prepared to pay the price (whatever that may be!) for making that kind of decision. The government has no business usurping any individual's rights over how he chooses to care for or maintain the health of his own body. Since women have rights over their own bodies, then don't all citizens of this country have the same rights!? If not, why not?

Boxcar

Name calling is uncalled for. If you think an uninsured person does not have the potential to be a drain on the economy, you are thinking wrong.

[Tom]

Ljb, driving is not a right- it is a privialge. One of the rules to ue it insurance. One has a choice not to drive and thus not be forced to pay for car insurance.

[ddog]

Originally Posted by boxcar

The individual should decide if "mandatory" is good for him or not. Not some Nanny State who can't think beyond its nose, and whose only purpose in life is to create unmanagable, expensive, unbelievably complex and highly inefficient bureaucracies. These things a Nanny State does well -- all too well -- and always, always at individuals' expense!

Boxcar

Well then Car ole buddy, I want all my tax dollars that were spent over 50 years of military back.
I wasn't sure from your description above what you were referring to for a minute.

Somehow, I suspect the woman right to her body thing, you really don't agree with, any port in a storm for your kind.
And by the way, stop bitching and invest in insurance companies.
Maybe you could get your mandatory ins for free that way.

I still don't know how many times it would need to be said , but YES YES YES having mandatory uninsured motorist coverage COSTS me MONEY.
How is that so challenging for you ?

I would say that comparing abortions to having your broken leg set is apples to oranges as well.
that seems to be your path there.


You my friend NEED the nanny state to care for you. I suspect the "short bus" drives you around.

[MikeDee]

I think that everyone should have a choice in buying health care or but only one choice.

When you turn 21 you can decide not to be insured or to be insured. If you think you are (or will be) rich, and smart, and will always be healthy and will be so rich that you can pay for your cancer surgery, and bypass operations that will come when you get old, then by all means exercise your freedom and decline insurance.

But you do not get a second chance. If things don't work out so well, and you don't get rich and you inevitably get sick then you are on your own.

When your money runs out to bad, so sad. Don't expect those who have paid premiums all their adult life to bail out your short sightedness.

[ljb]

Originally Posted by Tom

Ljb, driving is not a right- it is a privialge. One of the rules to ue it insurance. One has a choice not to drive and thus not be forced to pay for car insurance.

OK. Is life a right or a privilege ?

[Tom]

What's that supposed to mean?

[delayjf]

OK. Is life a right or a privilege ?

You have the "right" to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Do you interpret that as an obiligation of the Government to do all that is humanly possible no matter the cost to others, to say your life?

By the by, those "inalienable rights" according to our Founding Fathers are bestowed upon us by our creator. Therefore all atheist having no belief in a creator are not entitled to those "rights."

[Tom]

Ooooooo.
Jeff, you MB, you!

You hit the nail on the head.
To deny the Creator is to deny the basic rights.
We can start rounding up libs now!