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06-29-2018, 10:22 PM
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Track Profiles
I just finished re-reading Brohammer's Modern Pace Handicapping book, specifically on the chapter about creating track profiles. For those not familiar with the format, this is what he suggested:
Distance
# of entries
BL @ 1st call
BL @ 2nd call
E% (energy expenditure)
Winning running style
While this is technically an easy skeleton format to fill-in, I've been racking my brain trying to figure out what other things should be added to be more informational. Since this board has such amazing and knowledgeable people on here, I would like to know what would you add to this? Thank you for any insight and opinions.
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06-30-2018, 12:28 AM
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post position
winner's odds
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06-30-2018, 02:42 PM
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also the times of the calls.
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06-30-2018, 07:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic Parakeet
While this is technically an easy skeleton format to fill-in, I've been racking my brain trying to figure out what other things should be added to be more informational. Since this board has such amazing and knowledgeable people on here, I would like to know what would you add to this? Thank you for any insight and opinions.
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Metrics of importance to your handicapping.
For example...
The standard Sartin data
EP
SP
W
My own would be
F1
EP
SC
FT
TotEng
SP
FW
LP
SR
The truth is that it doesn't matter what these are. What matters is what you think is important to track.
The goal of the model is to decide which columns are most important.
Hope this helps.
Dave Schwartz
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06-30-2018, 10:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
Metrics of importance to your handicapping.
For example...
The standard Sartin data
EP
SP
W
My own would be
F1
EP
SC
FT
TotEng
SP
FW
LP
SR
The truth is that it doesn't matter what these are. What matters is what you think is important to track.
The goal of the model is to decide which columns are most important.
Hope this helps.
Dave Schwartz
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Thank you so much, Dave! I appreciate your posts and insights.
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"And there they go! It's Toupée going on ahead, Long Underwear has fallen behind, Toothpaste is being squeezed out on the rail as Banana joins the bunch, and Cabbage is trailing by a head."
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07-01-2018, 04:51 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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I would add run up if you know it, and for turf, the temp rail position.
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07-02-2018, 12:44 AM
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My question since I possess few computer skills, how does getting result chart files into a spreadsheet work? I would still have empty boxes for race and trip notes of the winner but I would love to be able to eliminate some of the basic work. Any help would be welcome.
Last edited by CincyHorseplayer; 07-02-2018 at 12:49 AM.
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07-07-2018, 11:01 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Is there software in there somewhere?
What are the requirements to run it if there is???
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07-08-2018, 12:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zerosky
That is a mighty fine piece of software, I've been looking for something like that for ages, thanks for the link.
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Appears to be. Sadly my java skillz are non existent.
How about a quick and dirty on how to get this running with the least amount of pain.
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07-08-2018, 06:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Is there software in there somewhere?
What are the requirements to run it if there is???
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Sorry, but if you have to ask these questions this repo is not for you yet!
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07-08-2018, 09:14 AM
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P.S.- If anyone knows how to transpose Ultimate PDF PP's into Excel would get the ultimate prize....
Most of the PDF to Excel's cant handle the small distinctions
Mike
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07-08-2018, 10:51 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by DeltaLover
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No one asked you.
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07-08-2018, 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
No one asked you.
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07-09-2018, 12:18 AM
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The problem I had ,had nothing to do with java skills or lack thereof after all.
It's not clear what you're supposed to down load.
Make sure you don't download the source code, but the complied EXE for your platform.
Quite an impressive project.
Last edited by AltonKelsey; 07-09-2018 at 12:20 AM.
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07-09-2018, 12:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikesal57
P.S.- If anyone knows how to transpose Ultimate PDF PP's into Excel would get the ultimate prize....
Most of the PDF to Excel's cant handle the small distinctions
Mike
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I imagine this guy could easily add that.
Last edited by AltonKelsey; 07-09-2018 at 12:23 AM.
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