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11-07-2010, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cat Thief
Well I know this is where you have an opinion and people should respect that opinion but I can't believe what I am reading. Zenyetta is 6 years old, she has done everything in racing including racing against the boys 2 years in a row, one of them on dirt and who the hell beat her? Only Blame by a nose. It is time for her to retire and take it easy. I am sure they don't give a damn about horse of the year, what is that anyway? Everyone knows Zenyatta is horse of the century. She has done enough.
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You're right, I can respect your opinion, while I can still state, "horse of the century"? What a joke. So far from it. And much of that can be attributed to her owner's decisions.
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11-07-2010, 11:36 AM
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I suspect Zen is one of the great distance TURF horses of the past 30 yrs that never ran over the turf. I'd love to see her come back and run a few turf marathons next yr. I doubt it will ever happen, but I'd love to see it.
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11-07-2010, 11:37 AM
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I thought with a win she should be retired, but now I am not so sure. If she is %100 sound and happy it will be a tough call. I would love to see here run again next year, and the door is open.
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11-07-2010, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Market Mover
The problem is..Shirreffs said she was better going into the race this year than last..
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I hope they fill us in as to why they thought she didnt run her A game.
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11-07-2010, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cpitt84
I hope they fill us in as to why they thought she didnt run her A game.
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Who said she didn't? That would just be ridiculous.
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11-07-2010, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by depalma113
There is no reason to retire her. If she is not injured and still has the will to race, why stop? The Big Cap at Santa Anita on dirt should be her target.
She just might get a walkover.
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I agree. I'd like to see her run against both sexes and just to see her win again..I miss it already!
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Ruffian: Lucien Laurin, Secretariat's trainer, said this quote to the press "As God as my witness, she may even be better than Secretariat."
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11-07-2010, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
Who said she didn't? That would just be ridiculous.
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If sherriffs did say that she will run better than last year, why didnt she? thats just what i want to know.
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11-07-2010, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cpitt84
If sherriffs did say that she will run better than last year, why didnt she? thats just what i want to know.
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Who says she didn't run better?
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11-07-2010, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
Who says she didn't run better?
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Well, for now I am saying this. since she won last year and not this year, I do not know if they can say she ran better.
although, sherriffs said she ran an excellent race. I think it goes back to: if a really great horse runs an excellent race, they should win! It's disappointing for a new fan such as myself!
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11-07-2010, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cpitt84
Well, for now I am saying this. since she won last year and not this year, I do not know if they can say she ran better.
although, sherriffs said she ran an excellent race. I think it goes back to: if a really great horse runs an excellent race, they should win! It's disappointing for a new fan such as myself!
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you ever consider that her competition this year was much better than last year? Say she improves 5% over last year, but Blame was 10% better than the place horse last year. She'll lose while having a better race. Why so hard to understand?
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11-07-2010, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cpitt84
Well, for now I am saying this. since she won last year and not this year, I do not know if they can say she ran better.
although, sherriffs said she ran an excellent race. I think it goes back to: if a really great horse runs an excellent race, they should win! It's disappointing for a new fan such as myself!
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You say I keep busting your chops. I'm sorry you feel this way, it's not my intention. To help you learn would be a better way of looking at it, but you simply come up with snippy replies and messages unfortunately. Maybe, I, nor others, can teach you anything. If so, that would be your problem and not mine or anyone else's. Too, you are demanding answers to questions that are not attainable by others here. Who can speak on behalf of her trainer?
Please, allow me this one important note for you, and my, hopefully, last one.
One of the very first givens, the very first rules of this game:
YOU ARE GOING TO BE DISAPPOINTED OFTEN!
The sooner you learn this, the better off you will be. And this is what is leading to many of your posts being questioned. One doesn't demand answers or make atrociously incorrect statements. One reads and studies and learns this game and those that are new to it, those with true desire, fully understand this. Honestly, they do.
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11-07-2010, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
you ever consider that her competition this year was much better than last year? Say she improves 5% over last year, but Blame was 10% better than the place horse last year. She'll lose while having a better race. Why so hard to understand?
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I didnt mind you explaning it but the last sentence was just a subtle dig against me.
That is what the internet does...the stuff people say on here they would never say person to person. They hide behind a screen.
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11-07-2010, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cpitt84
I didnt mind you explaning it but the last sentence was just a subtle dig against me.
That is what the internet does...the stuff people say on here they would never say person to person. They hide behind a screen.
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You're wrong there, honey, I'd look you dead in the eye in a New York minute and say every word to your face I've typed to you here.
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11-07-2010, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Grits
You're wrong there, honey, I'd look you dead in the eye in a New York minute and say every word to your face I've typed to you here.
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And I would respect you even less for it. The insulting things you have said in the past? Human beings take pride in what they do...even if its insulting others.
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11-07-2010, 12:55 PM
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And I could care less what you think of me. I've never put anyone here on ignore. You just became the first. You're not interested in learning about the sport of horseracing, you're interested in arguing on a messageboard about Zenyatta. Its pretty much the only time you've shown up.
Good luck with your commitment to the game and to earning the respect of others. You've got a mightly long road ahead of you.
EOC
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