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07-13-2019, 07:23 AM
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Many have familiarized themselves with the scientific literature of the mainstream scientific consensus on global warming. Bill Nye draws on that. You gents try to discuss the topic using unsound data and sources. Your latest henchman draws on those faulty sources. And proves he is wrong from jump in that video.
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when he made his speech, it was true
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07-13-2019, 08:52 AM
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Also, consensus is not a foundational principle of science.
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07-13-2019, 09:56 AM
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the green new deal is actually a 'change the entire economy thing'
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07-13-2019, 10:12 AM
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Watching the weather this morning, they were showing two models, Euro and GFS. Two models, could not agree on the next three days.
And we are going to destroy economies over a long term model.
OK
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07-13-2019, 10:19 AM
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when he made his speech, it was true
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I have already dealt with this. The so-called "Pause" or hiaatus was an erroneous reading of the global temperature record.
Global warming hiatus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_hiatus
A global warming hiatus,[1] also sometimes referred to as a global warming pause[2] or a global warming slowdown,[3] is a period of relatively little change in globally averaged surface temperatures.[4] In the current episode of global warming many such 15-year periods appear in the surface temperature record, along with robust evidence of the long-term warming trend.[1] Such a "hiatus" is shorter than the 30-year periods that climate is classically averaged over.[5]
With deliberately cherry picking appropriate time periods, here 1998-2012, a "pause" can be created, even when there is an ongoing warming trend.
Many climate deniers are constantly claiming the models the consensus climatologist use are non predictive. In this case of the hiatus the deniers and Hayward claimed their denier models predicted global warning had stopped.
The mainstream models were correct and remain correct
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07-13-2019, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rastajenk
Also, consensus is not a foundational principle of science.
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Maybe not, bur denying current scientific views because of conspiracy theories aren't either.
The science specifically must be scrutinized.
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07-13-2019, 10:28 AM
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the green new deal is actually a 'change the entire economy thing'
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Tucker Carlson is a change in proper journalism. There are other s in addition to AOC who have many of the details needed worked out to institute changes needed responsibly, without destroying our economy.
How come Tucker does not cover them?
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07-13-2019, 10:50 AM
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Because they are all stupid and will never work.
AOC has NOTHING to offer but a big mouth and a small brain.
The Green New Deal is a litmus test for people too dumb to listen to. And, btw, when will SHE start living the GND? SHE still does as she pleases, as per most GW wackos.
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07-13-2019, 11:07 AM
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Because they are all stupid and will never work.
AOC has NOTHING to offer but a big mouth and a small brain.
The Green New Deal is a litmus test for people too dumb to listen to. And, btw, when will SHE start living the GND? SHE still does as she pleases, as per most GW wackos.
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AOC has her own threads. This is about global warming, not bitching about bright young congresswomen.
You have already bitched about women soccer players. Bitch, bitch, bitch.
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07-13-2019, 11:17 AM
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Case in point - thank you.
Can't even follow along for two posts!
YOU posted
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There are other s in addition to AOC
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So I replied to YOU bringing her up.
Man, you gotta work on your game, dude - it is not up to snuff for this place!
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07-13-2019, 11:41 AM
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Case in point - thank you.
Can't even follow along for two posts!
YOU posted
So I replied to YOU bringing her up.
Man, you gotta work on your game, dude - it is not up to snuff for this place!
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No you missed the point totally. I have been posting
Mike Bloomberg's "Beyond Carbon
Moving the United States toward a 100% clean energy economy
https://www.beyondcarbon.org/?utm_me...n_BeyondCarbon
A number of times. Your boy Tucker is not bright enough to deal with Bloomberg. Carlson is a FAU am radio host. Nothing more
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07-13-2019, 01:47 PM
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07-13-2019, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
I have already dealt with this. The so-called "Pause" or hiaatus was an erroneous reading of the global temperature record.
Global warming hiatus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_hiatus
A global warming hiatus,[1] also sometimes referred to as a global warming pause[2] or a global warming slowdown,[3] is a period of relatively little change in globally averaged surface temperatures.[4] In the current episode of global warming many such 15-year periods appear in the surface temperature record, along with robust evidence of the long-term warming trend.[1] Such a "hiatus" is shorter than the 30-year periods that climate is classically averaged over.[5]
With deliberately cherry picking appropriate time periods, here 1998-2012, a "pause" can be created, even when there is an ongoing warming trend.
Many climate deniers are constantly claiming the models the consensus climatologist use are non predictive. In this case of the hiatus the deniers and Hayward claimed their denier models predicted global warning had stopped.
The mainstream models were correct and remain correct
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If you say so, it must be true. Our country needs to aspire to the great example China is setting with production and utilization of solar panels. Does their government subsidize this with tax credits?
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07-13-2019, 04:20 PM
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No you missed the point totally. I have been posting
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There are other s in addition to AOC
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YOU posted this.....sorry if your mind can't remember what you said two posts ago. Musb the hotter planet taking its toll on you.t
Your boy Tucker is not bright enough to deal with Bloomberg.
Carlson is a FAU am radio host. Nothing more
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Sorry to disappoint you, but I do not watch Tucker, so he is not my boy.
BUT, if BLOOMBERG is YOUR boy.....
No big drink for you, and no straw!
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07-13-2019, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rastajenk
Also, consensus is not a foundational principle of science.
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The very basis of sciences is the need to SUBSTANTIATE an idea by repeating the initial experiments to see if the outcome holds up to the original experimenter.
Amazing the ignorance today in this world
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