View Poll Results: Should background checks be required
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Prior to owning a gun
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Prior to voting
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Prior to owning a gun and/or voting
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Never for a right
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09-20-2019, 09:45 PM
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Resurrectionist
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Backgound Checks
Should background checks be required prior to owning a gun?
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09-20-2019, 09:47 PM
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Resurrectionist
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I think this is an interesting question as do others.
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09-20-2019, 10:00 PM
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Quintessential guru
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FYI voting is usually considered a privilege and not a "right".
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09-20-2019, 10:03 PM
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Resurrectionist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
FYI voting is usually considered a privilege and not a "right".
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Mahalo!!
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09-20-2019, 10:05 PM
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Check this weeks releases from your state prison. Ask yourself if you would want some or all of them to be able to own a firearm.
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09-20-2019, 10:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jocko699
Should background checks be required prior to owning a gun?
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Funny, but that's not what your poll is asking.
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09-20-2019, 10:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jay68802
Check this weeks releases from your state prison. Ask yourself if you would want some or all of them to be able to own a firearm.
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Good point
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Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base. All men are afraid in battle. The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood.
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09-20-2019, 10:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jay68802
Check this weeks releases from your state prison. Ask yourself if you would want some or all of them to be able to own a firearm.
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That background check already exists.
The real question is do you believe background checks be expanded?
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A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
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09-20-2019, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
That background check already exists.
The real question is do you believe background checks be expanded?
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Expanded to where? A questionable text? or possible mental illness? Define the limits to the expansion and I will give you a answer.
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09-20-2019, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jay68802
Expanded to where? A questionable text? or possible mental illness? Define the limits to the expansion and I will give you a answer.
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Any of the above. Mental illness disclosures would be a violation the right to privacy too. A questionable text would violate Due Process. In addition to eroding the "right" to own and possess a firearm.
A lot of rights are involved in this issue.
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Last edited by Show Me the Wire; 09-20-2019 at 11:33 PM.
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09-20-2019, 11:35 PM
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Felony convictions are the most common reason for the gun background check system to reject an applicant, resulting in 865,910 denials during the 21 years that NICS has been in operation. More than 189,000 fugitives, 212,000 domestic offenders, and 148,000 unlawful drug users have also been blocked. The bar for denying someone on mental health grounds is very high, requiring that a person has been declared unsound or involuntarily confined to a psychiatric institution by a court or other authority. Fewer than 43,000 people have been denied under this criterion.
https://www.thetrace.org/2015/07/gun...ck-nics-guide/
These types of checks are Constitutional as they do not violate Due Process or privacy laws.
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A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
George Washington
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09-21-2019, 02:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
Felony convictions are the most common reason for the gun background check system to reject an applicant, resulting in 865,910 denials during the 21 years that NICS has been in operation. More than 189,000 fugitives, 212,000 domestic offenders, and 148,000 unlawful drug users have also been blocked. The bar for denying someone on mental health grounds is very high, requiring that a person has been declared unsound or involuntarily confined to a psychiatric institution by a court or other authority. Fewer than 43,000 people have been denied under this criterion.
https://www.thetrace.org/2015/07/gun...ck-nics-guide/
These types of checks are Constitutional as they do not violate Due Process or privacy laws.
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So, make a point other than that.
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09-21-2019, 09:06 AM
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Just another Facist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jay68802
Check this weeks releases from your state prison. Ask yourself if you would want some or all of them to be able to own a firearm.
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You’re kidding right? You think they can’t get a gun because they cannot pass a background check?
Nothing stops the criminals from getting guns.
Never forget it
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09-21-2019, 10:06 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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I voted for gun ownership only.
I do support having to show proof of who you are in order to vote - that is not a violation of my right. If I am a citizen and legally allowed to vote, I have no problem proving who I am.
But background checks will never solve the problem.
What is the number of NRA members involved in mass shootings?
I think we need a much more comprehensive approach, not just one that feels good, which is mostly what liberal strive for.
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09-21-2019, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
You’re kidding right? You think they can’t get a gun because they cannot pass a background check?
Nothing stops the criminals from getting guns.
Never forget it
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I understand this, but it's not the point. Where there is a will, there is a way. You, I, or anyone will not be able to stop someone from obtaining a gun, if they want one. It does not matter how many restrictions you put out there. Same thing with drugs. Pot, is illegal in my state. Do you think think that means it is hard to get? And I live in a town with less than 1500 people in it. Laws matter to me, not to criminals.
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