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01-17-2019, 11:04 AM
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gelding
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Keep it up, and you'll be banned next.
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I'll be banned for criticizing your posts? You realize that's the foundation of this forum, right? You did it about 14 times yesterday with Ely..
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01-17-2019, 11:07 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
I would say this post is a load of bullshit.
Looks at:
NATO
EU
United European Army
North Korea Failure
Inserting ourselves into Brexit
Syria Cluster****
TPP Withdrawal
JCPOA Withdrawal
INF Withdrawal
You know the things I comment on all the time around here that you either dismiss or argue...
All of the above strengthen the hands of Russia...
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What changed with NATO? Nothing
What changed with EU? Nothing
What changed with NK? Nothing but minor good stuff...or at least the PERCEPTION of minor good stuff, which in and of itself is positive given what was happening before.
Inserting ourselves into Brexit? Makes zero difference. Nothing there.
Syria? Syria is baby shit...but I give you that...fine...if we ACTUALLY WITHDRAW.
The other stuff, I will say I have not read recently about and can't comment, but none of it sounds like anything earth shattering...I guess maybe it's the stuff I'm missing that is the EARTH SHAKING changes regarding Russia?
Will I be hiding under my desk soon like back in grade school?
Will Putin be banging his shoe @ the UN in tribute to bygone era?
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01-17-2019, 11:10 AM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
I'll be banned for criticizing your posts? You realize that's the foundation of this forum, right? You did it about 14 times yesterday with Ely..
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Sometimes one needs to be reminded whose house you're in....
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01-17-2019, 11:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
What changed with NATO? Nothing
What changed with EU? Nothing
What changed with NK? Nothing but minor good stuff...or at least the PERCEPTION of minor good stuff, which in and of itself is positive given what was happening before.
Inserting ourselves into Brexit? Makes zero difference. Nothing there.
Syria? Syria is baby shit...but I give you that...fine...if we ACTUALLY WITHDRAW.
The other stuff, I will say I have not read recently about and can't comment, but none of it sounds like anything earth shattering...I guess maybe it's the stuff I'm missing that is the EARTH SHAKING changes regarding Russia?
Will I be hiding under my desk soon like back in grade school?
Will Putin be banging his shoe @ the UN in tribute to bygone era?
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How "Earth shaking" does it need to be?
The fact he's absolute garbage at accomplishing stuff doesn't change the fact his rhetoric is damaging to institutions.
Is NATO Stronger or Weaker now?
Is United States support of the EU stronger or weaker now?
Holding Brexit deals hostage by dangling bilateral trade deals hostage isn't a issue?
Answer those.
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01-17-2019, 11:49 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Is NATO Stronger or Weaker now?
Is United States support of the EU stronger or weaker now?
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1. If it is weaker, then it is not worth the cost to keep it going.
If asking them to pay their fair share for THEIR defense is bad, then NATO is not viable
2. Who cares?
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01-17-2019, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
1. If it is weaker, then it is not worth the cost to keep it going.
If asking them to pay their fair share for THEIR defense is bad, then NATO is not viable
2. Who cares?
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Understanding NATO fail.
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01-17-2019, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Understanding NATO fail.
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NATOs mission has been accomplished. EU can take care of themselves now.
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01-17-2019, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
NATOs mission has been accomplished. EU can take care of themselves now.
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Putin agrees...
Essentially the point.
Thanks for making it.
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01-17-2019, 07:05 PM
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Resurrectionist
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Cheyenne, Wy
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Originally Posted by davew
NATOs mission has been accomplished. EU can take care of themselves now.
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Agree and Europe can pay for it. If they need us right a check and we'll show up.
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01-17-2019, 07:21 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: donkeys ride from ASD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
How "Earth shaking" does it need to be?
The fact he's absolute garbage at accomplishing stuff doesn't change the fact his rhetoric is damaging to institutions.
Is NATO Stronger or Weaker now?
Is United States support of the EU stronger or weaker now?
Holding Brexit deals hostage by dangling bilateral trade deals hostage isn't a issue?
Answer those.
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None of these can shake salt off a cracker No one cares not even you , though you do try.
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01-17-2019, 07:23 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Understanding NATO fail.
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Understanding RESPONSIBILITIES of NATO members..fail F-
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01-17-2019, 07:25 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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If Russia were to invade any European nation, would anyone seriously support our responding militarily?
Not me.
No matter who it was.
Now, suppose Russia launched nukes at US.
Anyone thing any NATO member would attack them?
Think it would make any difference if they did?
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01-17-2019, 08:08 PM
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Its always humorous when people here can't defend a position when questioned... they always just start talking about something else...
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01-17-2019, 09:29 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller View Post
Understanding NATO fail.
I suppose you defended that statement? Fail F--
I understand we are NOT the world's policemen.
I understand when Shit hole countries take advantage of us.
I understand when WE are the strength of NATO and the rest are along for the ride.
I understand without us, none of them would ever attack RUSSIA.
I understand Trump thinks NATO members have an obligation to pay their share of the cost of it all. You think a free ride is acceptable? If they won't pay for their freedom, they do not deserve to have it. I can live with an Iron Curtain.
Other than Germany and Poland, most of the rest of them have been more trouble that they are worth since being freed.
Miss anything?
Why don't you put your great brain to work and answer the questions I asked a couple of posts ago? And be sure to "defend" your answers.
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01-17-2019, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller View Post
Understanding NATO fail.
I suppose you defended that statement? Fail F--
I understand we are NOT the world's policemen.
I understand when Shit hole countries take advantage of us.
I understand when WE are the strength of NATO and the rest are along for the ride.
I understand without us, none of them would ever attack RUSSIA.
I understand Trump thinks NATO members have an obligation to pay their share of the cost of it all. You think a free ride is acceptable? If they won't pay for their freedom, they do not deserve to have it. I can live with an Iron Curtain.
Other than Germany and Poland, most of the rest of them have been more trouble that they are worth since being freed.
Miss anything?
Why don't you put your great brain to work and answer the questions I asked a couple of posts ago? And be sure to "defend" your answers.
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Is NATO stronger or weaker now?
See... you're still actually ducking the question...
I get you agree with Putin... its in my signature...
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