Jerry Bailey DVDs

[kitts]

My main objection to all handicapping DVDs is why not provide/sell a printed supplement? Otherwise, when stuff is being listed, the user has to start and stop to catch it all.

These two DVDs have a lot of stuff. It is great to see Bailey and hear him tell about things. He is interviewed on these by Morty Mittenthal who appears to have been around horseracing for many years. He tried to get Bailey to cop to "conspiracy" things like form darkening and drugs but Bailey did not bite on those loaded questions.

There was not much other than talking to watch, a bit of PPs and a couple of races. There was more video of paddock and post parade on which Jerry gave great insight.

Not a great deal of "handicapping" here. Jerry shows how he looks at the PPs-just locating the speed and then figuring on the non-speed horses chances. There is no discussion on "pace" other than how the jockeys figure it. Jerry gives a lot of stuff on various jockeys, trainers, workouts and tracks which was interesting but not too much of a handicapping aid. The man had a lot of experience to relate and horsie stuff. He has ridden a lot of races and gained much knowledge, much of which he shares.

A novice player (2-5 years experience) might get more out of these than the many years experience folks. I enjoyed the two DVDs and did not feel the $50 price was outrageous.

I managed to use the word "stuff" four times!

[Tom]

Kitts,
I thought the first one sounded more interesting and am considering it - any thought between the two?

[kitts]

Tough call, Tom. If I were to buy only one, it would be #1. But #2 has a whole lot of paddock and post parade. Might as well buy both.

[Tom]

Thanks, Kitt.
Fort Erie is buying them for me so I will get both.

[kitts]

It might appear that nobody really cares about these DVDs or even bothers to thank the reviewer. Except, good old Tom who never lets me down. :o)

[NY BRED]

interesting set of dvd's especially with respect to jd's ride on you in
2005 at the spa, when jd, trapped on the rail, yelled to jorge chavez to give
up his position on the rail allowing the race to unfold to a virtual replay
of the alydar-affirmed famous match race.

even more illuminating was that jorge understood his plea!

what i really found amazing was his concentration not only of the
competition (horses), but equally as important , the riding style
of the jockeys which, at least in his opinion, gave him an edge
in winning or getting place/show money.


well worth the price to to understand some of the nuances not
necessarily focused on by even veteran handicappers.

on the other hand, it would be nice to know the jerry would donate some of the cost of the dvd's to charity or horse rescue societies based upon
the purse money he has own over his career(300 million )

[selvidge]

The Jerry Bailey DVDs add something new. There are a jillion books and visuals (VHS and DVD) on Thoroughbred handiapping, but few race fans ever have access to the backside. If you listen closely, among all the anecdotes there are clues that can add greatly to refining one's handicapping.

And he made a very bold recommendation on the issue of drugs. These days we don't get that much value from knowing the ID of the Owner and Breeder. But, the DRF should identify for each horse/trainer the veterinarian. To paraphrase Jerry, if trainers "A", "B" and "C" have huge win percentages with a lot of winning longshots - and they all use veterinarian "X" - this could be a red flag for TRPB and Steward investigations (and more testing focus to their horses).

We should all get behind this.

Best wishes to all,

Jim Selvidge