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06-28-2012, 10:11 AM
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obama care ruling
supreme court upholds obama care
so there you have it
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06-28-2012, 10:15 AM
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The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government's power to terminate states' Medicaid funds is narrowly read.
source: http://www.scotusblog.com/cover-it-live/
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06-28-2012, 10:17 AM
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chief justice roberts was the swing vote that saved obama care
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06-28-2012, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acorn54
chief justice roberts was the swing vote that saved obama care
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Did I call this shot or what a couple of months ago with this guy?
Boxcar
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06-28-2012, 10:27 AM
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Fox and CNN both reported the Mandate was struck down at first. MSNBC reported it was upheld. Then Fox and CNN changed their stories.
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06-28-2012, 10:29 AM
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Obama was adamant that it wasn't a tax, but Roberts says no it is a tax therefore ok. unreal
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06-28-2012, 10:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Obama was adamant that it wasn't a tax, but Roberts says no it is a tax therefore ok. unreal
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I don't want to upset Box, but I think John Roberts is a brilliant justice...whether you agree with him here or not.
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06-28-2012, 10:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike
I don't want to upset Box, but I think John Roberts is a brilliant justice...whether you agree with him here or not.
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do you agree with him here? was this a brilliant decision? I mean even Kennedy voted it down.
how did he find that this was a tax when none of the lower courts did?
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06-28-2012, 10:44 AM
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For the first time in 3 months, Obama's Intrade number rose. Now at 55.8%.
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06-28-2012, 11:04 AM
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guys and gals, I guess I don't understand. It seems to me that if this is considered a tax, and the court over ruled the president when he said it was not a tax, then pandora's box has been opened.
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06-28-2012, 11:13 AM
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In his wildest dreams, Osama Bin Laden could never have done this damage to our economy.
Justice Roberts to America - Go F yourselves.
Clearly a bought and paid for traitor.
Benedict Arnold has been replaced.
RIP America.
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06-28-2012, 11:14 AM
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I think you are correct, Huckster.
This is a temporary win for Obama. It's going to backfire, just like the Health Care bill his congress and senate pushed through, then suffered huge losses in the 2010 election.
Obama has repeatedly lied to the people. He is arrogant and it's becoming very troubling to a lot of people, many who originally supported him.
This man thinks he is an emperor.
If Mitt Romney can be a strong leader type, he should be able to win the election in November, I am not convinced he can, but hope he does.
Obama is a very bad president. This country has gone too far to becoming a "social justice"....otherwise known as Marxist state.
The voters can only blame themselves if this bad president is re-elected in Nov. The damage will be almost irreversable if the inept voters also give the Senate and Congress a Democrat party majority. It will be very bad.
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06-28-2012, 11:20 AM
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justice kennedy - “In our view, the entire Act before us is invalid in its entirety.”
thanks a bunch Roberts for joining the circus freaks to uphold this mess.
<golf clap sound>
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06-28-2012, 11:30 AM
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The Supreme Court said it was constitutional, which it clearly was. You can argue whether it is good policy or not. Not every bad policy is unconstitutional. It is no secret I like this law from a personal experence in dealing with a health care company.
This will be a major issue, but not the only one. The fall elections will decide whether the law is repealed or not. The republicans will have to get at least 60 senators to get it repealed. I feel that is unlikely even if by some off chance Romney wins but in an election anything is possible.
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06-28-2012, 11:40 AM
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A huge feather in Obama's cap.
A blow to Romney's aspirations.
His threat to repeal it will be perceived as hollow.
Paying attention to it will take him off the economy and jobs.
Although ultimately it will be at the center of economy and jobs.
The cost of this in light of the National Debt is going to mean a weakening of the military industrial complex.
A huge step forward for socialism and Obama's agenda to change America.
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