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04-01-2020, 12:34 PM
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Practically timeless, heh?  |
Exactly!
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04-01-2020, 01:07 PM
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Exactly!
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In your pipe dreams. Here's timeless:
Isa 40:6-8
6 A voice says, "Call out."
Then he answered, "What shall I call out?"
All flesh is grass, and all its loveliness is like the flower of the field.
7 The grass withers, the flower fades,
When the breath of the LORD blows upon it;
Surely the people are grass.
8 The grass withers, the flower fades,
But the word of our God stands forever.
NASB
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04-01-2020, 01:57 PM
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#4128
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Record low number of Americans hold biblical worldview, survey says
https://www.christianpost.com/news/r...598a01-2992089
Scripture, as usual, is right. Truly, only a "remnant" of mankind is being saved throughout the world if these numbers also translate to the rest of the nations.
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04-01-2020, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Record low number of Americans hold biblical worldview, survey says
https://www.christianpost.com/news/r...598a01-2992089
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I've said it several times here...people may talk a "great game" when it comes to religion, but their everyday lives betray their supposed religious beliefs. Which of course means that they don't really believe the religious things that they say. I guess it's hard to remain faithful to an absentee God...just as it's hard to remain faithful to an absentee dad. The ancients supposedly interacted with God directly...whereas modern man has to satisfy himself with extravagant future promises passed on by God's "representatives". And this just doesn't cut it anymore...
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04-01-2020, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
I've said it several times here...people may talk a "great game" when it comes to religion, but their everyday lives betray their supposed religious beliefs. Which of course means that they don't really believe the religious things that they say. I guess it's hard to remain faithful to an absentee God...just as it's hard to remain faithful to an absentee dad. The ancients supposedly interacted with God directly...whereas modern man has to satisfy himself with extravagant future promises passed on by God's "representatives". And this just doesn't cut it anymore...
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Very, very few "ancients" interacted with God directly. An infinitesimally small number in fact. Furthermore, even when God performed great and mighty works in he presence of thousands (such as in the Exodus), they couldn't not believe.
To believe God, one needs a heart transplant.
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04-01-2020, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Very, very few "ancients" interacted with God directly. An infinitesimally small number in fact. Furthermore, even when God performed great and mighty works in he presence of thousands (such as in the Exodus), they couldn't not believe.
To believe God, one needs a heart transplant.
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To "believe" means to not know for sure.
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04-01-2020, 04:00 PM
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There are various forms of alternative medicine.
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Do any of them work?
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04-01-2020, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Record low number of Americans hold biblical worldview, survey says
https://www.christianpost.com/news/r...598a01-2992089
Scripture, as usual, is right. Truly, only a "remnant" of mankind is being saved throughout the world if these numbers also translate to the rest of the nations. |
No, no one believes as you do the things in the bible are liable to be true......literally.
Only hope is, unless they begin to piece together what those things could mean in terms of their metaphorical, mythological, spiritual value,......your tall tales remain a very stale read.
And those that insist it is literal, are no better than. snake oil salesman.
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04-01-2020, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
To "believe" means to not know for sure.
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You don't read very carefully, do you? Close 1.5 to 2 million Jews witnessed God's ten plagues in Egypt and most of them still could not trust Him to keep his promise of deliverance. They murmured against God before they even got to the wilderness!
And how many thousands upon thousands witnessed Christ's miracles, which he performed primarily to affirm his messianic identity, yet most of Israel cried out with their leaders, "Crucify Him! Crucify Him!"
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04-01-2020, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
No, no one believes as you do the things in the bible are liable to be true......literally.
Only hope is, unless they begin to piece together what those things could mean in terms of their metaphorical, mythological, spiritual value,......your tall tales remain a very stale read.
And those that insist it is literal, are no better than. snake oil salesman.
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I'll stick with the Prophets, the Apostles and Jesus and how they interpreted scripture. Besides, what do the spiritually dead know? What can they know!?
And, no, I'm not alone in what I believe. Not by a long shot!
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04-01-2020, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
You don't read very carefully, do you? Close 1.5 to 2 million Jews witnessed God's ten plagues in Egypt and most of them still could not trust Him to keep his promise of deliverance. They murmured against God before they even got to the wilderness!
And how many thousands upon thousands witnessed Christ's miracles, which he performed primarily to affirm his messianic identity, yet most of Israel cried out with their leaders, "Crucify Him! Crucify Him!"
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Yes...the Israelis cried out "Crucify Him! Crucify Him!" What were they SUPPOSED to cry out? Wasn't it preordained for Christ to be CRUCIFIED? What choice did the Israelis have?
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04-01-2020, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
In your pipe dreams. Here's timeless:
Isa 40:6-8
6 A voice says, "Call out."
Then he answered, "What shall I call out?"
All flesh is grass, and all its loveliness is like the flower of the field.
7 The grass withers, the flower fades,
When the breath of the LORD blows upon it;
Surely the people are grass.
8 The grass withers, the flower fades,
But the word of our God stands forever.
NASB
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We came into a remorseless universe, and there is nothing we can do to stop time. We can only take advantage of the time we are given.
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04-01-2020, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
And, no, I'm not alone in what I believe. Not by a long shot!
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Argumentum ad populum!
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04-01-2020, 11:53 PM
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There are various forms of alternative medicine.
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I ask again, do any of them work?
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04-02-2020, 03:07 AM
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#4140
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Originally Posted by Actor
I ask again, do any of them work?
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Sometimes they work, and sometimes they don't...just like anything else.
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