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Old 06-11-2023, 01:20 PM   #1
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Breakdowns at Belmont-yesterday & today

Horrible breakdown during Belmont's first race of the day (on turf). There was a turf course breakdown yesterday during the last race in approximately the same place (far turn).

Really disheartening.
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On different turf courses, just to clarify.

So not same place.
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Old 06-11-2023, 02:14 PM   #3
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Correct me if I am wrong, but is that not break downs in consecutive races for Hennig?
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Old 06-12-2023, 11:31 AM   #4
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This story seeming to grow legs on mainstream media.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...vent-rcna88766
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Old 06-12-2023, 11:38 AM   #5
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Interesting theory on The Churchill breakdowns.

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Old 06-12-2023, 11:44 AM   #6
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Interesting theory on The Churchill breakdowns.
I wouldn't have put much stock into this theory...but then I came to this part of the story:

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We have known for decades that horses’ lives are shattered by radio waves. Hearings were held in Christchurch, New Zealand, and racehorse trainer Penny Hargreaves spoke out in an interview published in 1998. An FM radio tower in Ouruhia had had such devastating effects on her 90 horses that she was forced to relocate them to a different part of Canterbury. All her horses were affected, some more than others, and two died.

“They were very nervous and jumpy,” she said. “They all seemed to have sore feet. Horses who had travelled by trailer for years were losing balance while travelling. We have several hot spots around our yard where the horses become very volatile and hurt themselves and us.

“Our very valuable colt had serious health problems and walked as if his feet hurt. He could not bear to be shod. We had many vets look at him to try and solve his problems, but without any satisfactory answers. We finally turned him out in a paddock which has a large hay barn and trees between him and the tower. Within a month he had no problems at all. Back in his old yard, the problem returned.

“The blacksmith gave evidence at our hearing on the effect of the radio waves on our horses’ feet. The aluminum conducts electricity and their feet had changed shape, had huge cracks where the nails went and were very sensitive inside.

“We had weekly problems with infections we have never had before, our vet bills were horrendous.”
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It’s not always the cause, but proximate change is where you should always begin looking.
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Old 06-12-2023, 12:00 PM   #8
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I suspect that's a hit piece aimed at HISA through StrideSafe.

Churchill isn't the only track where StrideSafe has been tested.

To the best of my knowledge none of the other tracks where StrideSafe has been tested has seen an uptick in breakdowns.


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Old 06-12-2023, 12:03 PM   #9
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I suspect that's a hit piece aimed at HISA through StrideSafe.

Churchill isn't the only track where StrideSafe has been tested.

To the best of my knowledge none of the other tracks where StrideSafe has been tested has seen an uptick in breakdowns.


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Good to know Jeff...thanks for that
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I suspect that's a hit piece aimed at HISA through StrideSafe.

Churchill isn't the only track where StrideSafe has been tested.

To the best of my knowledge none of the other tracks where StrideSafe has been tested has seen an uptick in breakdowns.


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Maybe. We do know it was being used at Churchill. We know they had an inordinate amount of breakdowns. And we know they made the unusual decision to move the meet to Ellis - where it isn’t being used. Correct?
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Churchill is not the first track to suffer a jump in breakdowns.

Santa Anita's jump in breakdowns back in 2019 (before the idea for StrideSafe was ever conceived of) was worse than what Churchill just experienced.

A few days ago, comet52 posted an Article from USA today in the Churchill-Ellis Park thread here.

Brown: Santa Anita has blueprint Churchill Downs should use to address rash of horse deaths:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...e/70196656007/

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The two areas Ferraro pointed out that have helped curve deaths at Santa Anita included more independent eyes on the horses.

The track began to utilize multiple exams from different veterinarians. It also added spotters to watch horses train and look for anything out of the ordinary. Horses that raced at Santa Anita were subject to a five-member panel that considered when horses were entered, their work pattern, and previous races to make sure there were no red flags that indicated the horse needed to be re-examined.

What Ferraro called the most obvious, yet hardest, change to make was to limit medication in racing. CHRB research at the time showed that nine out of every 10 fatal breakdowns occurred in horses that had pre-existing injuries.

Ferraro said when they moved pre-race medication allowances back to 48 hours before a race, it “made a big difference right away.” Ferraro is also against the use of intra-articular injections, which are administered into the open space between the bones in the joint capsule. The process is often used to give horses anti-inflammatory medication that reduces pain and increases range of motion.
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Since implementing its rule changes, Santa Anita had single digit racing deaths in 2020 (6), 2021 (9) and 2022 (4), according to the Equine Injury Database. Last year, that meant only 0.63 fatalities per 1,000 starts.
If you ask me Santa Anita figured it out.

Fyi, at 0.63 fatalities per 1,000 starts, last year's Santa Anita numbers are right in line with Hong Kong's long term fatality stats (0.60 per 1,000 starts.)

Imo, everything needs to be analyzed on a continual basis:

Tests for blood doping and new designer drugs, unannounced barn searches for prohibited substances, thresholds and withdrawal times for substances that are allowed, clamping down on joint injections, shockwave and O2 therapy, beveling angle of the hoof, horseshoes, pre-race vet inspections, racing surfaces, weather/wind speed, etc., --

AND stuff that's never been evaluated before such as wireless signals generated by 5G towers, transmitters attached to saddle cloths that are part of race timing systems, StrideSafe transmitters, and a thousand other things none of us has ever thought of before.

That said:

Imo, if wireless signals were truly wreaking havoc with thoroughbreds we should have seen evidence of that by now with the rollout of 5G.


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Imo, if wireless signals were truly wreaking havoc with thoroughbreds we should have seen evidence of that by now with the rollout of 5G.


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Plus, we would have seen indications out in the world of humans acting in irrational and silly ways, and we definitely haven't seen any of that.
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No. None at all.


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Interesting theory on The Churchill breakdowns.
Varying versions of GPS trackers are being used at most tracks now. If they were responsible for an increase in breakdowns the same trend would be appearing everywhere.
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Plus, we would have seen indications out in the world of humans acting in irrational and silly ways, and we definitely haven't seen any of that.
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