Best Turf rider

[Garbage7]

In my opinion Flavien Plat is the best turf rider in America// he has a clock in his head and generally stays out of trouble. My other top turf riders are Rosario and Rispoli.. This is just my opinion and no I am not a west coast guy.

[Jeff P]

This is what I have in my 2021 database from Jan 01, 2021 through yesterday Aug 08-2021:


2021 YTD - Turf, Outer Main - 20 or More Wins

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BY RIDER sorted by wins                                              Run Date: 8/9/2021 9:56:00 AM
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                                          WIN     WIN       WIN                 PLACE   PLACE
RIDER                   PLAYS    WINS     PCT     IMPACT    ROI    PLACES       PCT     ROI
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LOPEZ PACO                452     95      0.2102  1.7675    0.883     173       0.3827  0.8524  
ORTIZ JR IRAD             359     91      0.2535  2.1316    0.8935    160       0.4457  0.9145  
PRAT FLAVIEN              308     80      0.2597  2.1838    0.8166    154       0.5     0.976   
ZAYAS EDGARD J            511     69      0.135   1.1352    0.7217    143       0.2798  0.6854  
GAFFALIONE TYLER          361     66      0.1828  1.5371    0.9078    106       0.2936  0.7464  
RISPOLI UMBERTO           261     62      0.2375  1.9971    1.1644    109       0.4176  0.9785  
SAEZ LUIS                 361     55      0.1524  1.2815    0.6979    108       0.2992  0.7939  
JARAMILLO EMISAEL         366     52      0.1421  1.1949    0.8347    94        0.2568  0.7317  
HERNANDEZ JUAN J          293     51      0.1741  1.464     1.0601    96        0.3276  0.9677  
VASQUEZ MIGUEL ANGEL      389     48      0.1234  1.0377    0.8247    92        0.2365  0.7167  
CAMACHO SAMY              312     47      0.1506  1.2664    0.8365    95        0.3045  0.8067  
ORTIZ JOSE L              327     46      0.1407  1.1831    0.5855    95        0.2905  0.7076  
BESCHIZZA ADAM            247     41      0.166   1.3959    0.8085    78        0.3158  0.8496  
ROSARIO JOEL              220     41      0.1864  1.5674    0.8127    66        0.3     0.7027  
GALLARDO ANTONIO A        190     39      0.2053  1.7263    0.8561    69        0.3632  0.9626  
GONZALEZ EDWIN            168     39      0.2321  1.9517    1.1131    57        0.3393  0.8345  
CENTENO DANIEL            199     38      0.191   1.6061    0.9337    71        0.3568  0.9472  
ELLIOTT STEWART           185     36      0.1946  1.6364    0.6946    56        0.3027  0.6357  
ALVARADO JUNIOR           269     31      0.1152  0.9687    0.677     86        0.3197  1.0297  
LOVEBERRY JARETH          112     31      0.2768  2.3276    1.1143    56        0.5     1.0406  
BRAVO JOE                 192     30      0.1563  1.3143    0.8682    60        0.3125  0.9948  
GEROUX FLORENT            150     27      0.18    1.5136    0.5647    53        0.3533  0.8533  
FREY KYLE                 102     27      0.2647  2.2258    1.0108    40        0.3922  0.7882  
LEPAROUX JULIEN R         222     26      0.1171  0.9847    0.7581    53        0.2387  0.7739  
PEDROZA MARCELINO         194     26      0.134   1.1268    0.8495    52        0.268   0.7892  
DIAZ JR HECTOR RAFAEL     193     26      0.1347  1.1327    0.8233    54        0.2798  0.792   
EIKLEBERRY RY             173     26      0.1503  1.2639    0.6766    64        0.3699  0.7922  
CEDILLO ABEL              255     25      0.098   0.8241    0.7376    54        0.2118  0.578   
GUTIERREZ MARIO           162     25      0.1543  1.2975    0.6593    52        0.321   0.9216  
WADE LINDEY               148     25      0.1689  1.4203    0.6014    45        0.3041  0.6642  
CASTELLANO JAVIER         151     24      0.1589  1.3362    0.9132    45        0.298   0.8139  
LANERIE COREY J           261     23      0.0881  0.7408    0.6295    40        0.1533  0.5119  
GRAHAM JAMES              234     23      0.0983  0.8266    0.5923    51        0.2179  0.7692  
MURRILL MITCHELL          178     23      0.1292  1.0864    0.7202    50        0.2809  0.8539  
HERNANDEZ JR BRIAN JOSE   204     22      0.1078  0.9065    0.6814    44        0.2157  0.6588  
HERNANDEZ COLBY J         182     22      0.1209  1.0166    0.8212    43        0.2363  0.8418  
CARROLL DECLAN            166     20      0.1205  1.0133    0.7645    43        0.259   0.7584  
FERRER JOSE C             158     20      0.1266  1.0646    0.7797    39        0.2468  0.8411

2021 YTD - Turf, Inner - 7 or More Wins

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BY RIDER sorted by wins                                             Run Date: 8/9/2021 10:00:42 AM
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                                          WIN     WIN       WIN                 PLACE   PLACE
RIDER                   PLAYS    WINS     PCT     IMPACT    ROI    PLACES       PCT     ROI
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ORTIZ JOSE L              116     24      0.2069  1.7424    0.9091    42        0.3621  0.9272  
ORTIZ JR IRAD             98      24      0.2449  2.0625    0.7781    46        0.4694  0.9296  
FRANCO MANUEL             122     18      0.1475  1.2422    0.8775    29        0.2377  0.8303  
SAEZ LUIS                 94      15      0.1596  1.3441    0.8707    29        0.3085  0.8197  
ROSARIO JOEL              92      12      0.1304  1.0982    0.5141    29        0.3152  0.831   
LEZCANO JOSE              70      10      0.1429  1.2035    2.1243    19        0.2714  1.26    
CASTELLANO JAVIER         72      8       0.1111  0.9356    0.6611    14        0.1944  0.5125  
KIMURA KAZUSHI            35      8       0.2286  1.9252    0.8186    13        0.3714  0.7557  
CANCEL ERIC               86      7       0.0814  0.6855    1.2907    16        0.186   0.957   
STEIN JUSTIN              37      7       0.1892  1.5934    0.9824    15        0.4054  0.9865  
HERNANDEZ RAFAEL MANUEL   32      7       0.2188  1.8427    0.8531    9         0.2813  0.5766

-jp

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[MJC922]

Nice post Jeff. I was thinking back to the last time I was betting on a regular basis, it was Calder and Centeno was riding extremely well on that turf course.

[Inner Dirt]

My vote goes to Fernando Toro.

[Gamblin4ever]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

My vote goes to Fernando Toro.

I'm pretty sure he's talking about active jockeys.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

My vote goes to Fernando Toro.

Originally Posted by Gamblin4ever

I'm pretty sure he's talking about active jockeys.

I know.

[nuckman]

Always enjoy this topic. I also think it's useful to know which jocks have really good historical records on certain turf courses. Horatio Karomanos at Colonial Downs would be my example.

[delfman]

Brice Blanc

Julien Leparoux


Joel Rosario

Samy Camacho

[azeri98]

I agree with Prat and Rosario, I think the Ortiz brothers are very good as well as Luis Saez . Kent D is riding the best he has in years on the turf

[lamboguy]

Ryan Moore

Frank Dettori

[SandyW]

Don't forget Joe Bravo, one of the very best on turf.

Flavien Prat good on turf, better on dirt.

[geroge.burns99]

A little twist to Jeff's chart.....

Column AE added to show Actual vs Expected..

Yes, Ortiz has the most wins but also gets most of the favorites

The jocks in green are the ones that will get the price horse to win ...

[Robert Fischer]

handicapping the horses, not the jockeys... For the most part, with the jockey, I want to see that he's not huge downgrade in rider.
If he's ridden the horse well before, and/or he has a rapport w/ the trainer, it's usually a non-factor.

There are a minority of bad jockeys who are problematic enough, that even if a horse is coming off one or two trips, I won't invest any or much into a wager, for the reason that the jockey's inept riding is partially responsible and wary of yet another bad trip. I have watch-list horses who pop up w/ two consecutive races against the setup!, and then they are 9-1 and down in class where their good race will contend, and the strategy is "4 wide on the pace 1st turn" .

There are a minority of good jockeys who may fit a certain horse especially well. If there's a loose turf speed, Saez may be a nice fit. If there's a horse who needs to rate, and draft, and time his run, Irad is nice to have up. Prat seems to be a natural to capitalize on position and tactics. Johnny V has really done well to capitalize on position and tactics with a talented runner.

[CheckMark]

TURF

North America: Either Prat or Irad Ortiz Jr

International: Frankie Dettori or Ryan moore

[nuckman]

Gotta downgrade Pratt after that ride in the Mr. D.