Epidemiologist: Why Lockdowns Are The Wrong Policy

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

See, you have no objectivity here - it makes no difference how it compared to Trump - all that matters is how it compared to REALITY.

And Science got if wrong by close to 2 million so far.

Run along, troll.......I might touch you! BOOOOOOOOO!

You are not paying attention baby chimp. Just crying and moaning.I posted an objective study explaining objective reasons epidemiological projections varied depending upon the then unknown responses and reactions by the public to recommended courses of actions. All you pandemic minimizers have done is babble Trumpian garbage like it will "go away soon". and it is no "worse than the seasonal flu".

All reputable mainstream projections warned of a disaster of pandemic proportions. Some worse than others depending upon the public's actions.....

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

Nothing but.....and he wants to tell everyone else how to live, on any topics.
IF he is so worried about COVID, stay home, never get close to anyone, and stay the hell out of real people's lives.

Just pandemics and climate change, both you and your mentor boxcar are woefully ignorant of.

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by hcap

Just pandemics and climate change, both you and your mentor boxcar are woefully ignorant of.

Don't you see a possible correlation between this pandemic and climate change? If China wasn't the perpetrator of an evil act (of which I believe it was), then we have to look to Mother Nature.

Don't many climate change activists et al. (e.g. Bill Gates) believe that over population is having a detrimental affect on the health of this planet? Well then, as I said once before, Mother Nature has a way of balancing things out to protect the survival of her charge. If this pandemic and its subsequent loss of numerous lives is not a deliberate, man-made, evil act, then there is very little anyone can do until Mother Nature is satisfied.

It has always been, and it is now survival of the fittest. With reasonable precautions, get out and enjoy life, get back to some semblance of 'normal'...no man dies before his time.

[delayjf]

Don't you see a possible correlation between this pandemic and climate change?

The one thing I take away from all this is that Medical resarchers are no better at modeling an outcome than Climatologist. Both piss poor.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by delayjf

The one thing I take away from all this is that Medical resarchers are no better at modeling an outcome than Climatologist. Both piss poor.

You have been proved wrong many many times.


A composite of all the major global temperature records going back to 1890 (the satellite records only begin in the late 20th century). The datasets are the surface temperature measurements of NASA GISS, HadCRUT, and NOAA, plus the satellite measurements of lower atmosphere temperature by RSS and UAH. The datasets were compiled by Kelly O'Day and standardized by Benjamin Franz using the 1980-2010 average temperatures from each dataset, and the data are available in a single spreadsheet from here.

And.....


Coronavirus Cases:
1,673,301
Deaths:
98,824

[hcap]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

Don't you see a possible correlation between this pandemic and climate change? If China wasn't the perpetrator of an evil act (of which I believe it was), then we have to look to Mother Nature.

Don't many climate change activists et al. (e.g. Bill Gates) believe that over population is having a detrimental affect on the health of this planet? Well then, as I said once before, Mother Nature has a way of balancing things out to protect the survival of her charge. If this pandemic and its subsequent loss of numerous lives is not a deliberate, man-made, evil act, then there is very little anyone can do until Mother Nature is satisfied.

It has always been, and it is now survival of the fittest. With reasonable precautions, get out and enjoy life, get back to some semblance of 'normal'...no man dies before his time.

There are dozens of other explanations other than your false dichotomy. It rarely is either all white or all black. The devils is in the details. Problem, seems to me, is delving into the nitty gritty.

That is the province of expertise. And science.

It has always been, and it is now survival of the fittest.

That is a misconception of Darwin's theory , and "mother nature"

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by delayjf

The one thing I take away from all this is that Medical resarchers are no better at modeling an outcome than Climatologist. Both piss poor.

Amen! It's all guestimates

[Tom]

hcap is one sick dude.
Anyone getting his kicks by posting the death tolls every days is beyond help.

Can one person be so totally depraved and insecure that he needs to do something morbid like that to try to gain attention?

Can't imagine what kind of sick, warped mind find that takes.
But I am sure several ,ore here will chime in soon enough to support him.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

hcap is one sick dude.
Anyone getting his kicks by posting the death tolls every days is beyond help.

Can one person be so totally depraved and insecure that he needs to do something morbid like that to try to gain attention?

Can't imagine what kind of sick, warped mind find that takes.
But I am sure several ,ore here will chime in soon enough to support him.

Sorry to fill you in on one of the worst disasters in this country that is actually happening now, while your inept moron plays golf.

The same inept moron who said it was all going away. Talk about one sick dude!
Oh wait, you and the blimp make two.

Btw, an update....

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
1,689,618
Deaths:
99,381

3 months. 100,000 dead

[Tom]

Playing gold - your old stand by when you have no ammo left.

My GAWD you are one transparent little nothing of a man.
A total joke, no credibility.

I guess you are in favor of social distancing because everyone has been social distancing from YOU long before Coivid came along!

I bet you love masks because that was the only way YOU could get close to real people - by wearing a mask!

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Tom

Playing gold - your old stand by when you have no ammo left.

My GAWD you are one transparent little nothing of a man.
A total joke, no credibility.

I guess you are in favor of social distancing because everyone has been social distancing from YOU long before Coivid came along!

I bet you love masks because that was the only way YOU could get close to real people - by wearing a mask!

Are you insinuatin' that Hcap is socially repugnant in the facial area of his old decrepit body?

[Tom]

Knock. Knock.

Who's there?

Covid-19.

Whew! I thought it might have been hcap.
Come on in!

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

Playing gold - your old stand by when you have no ammo left.

My GAWD you are one transparent little nothing of a man.
A total joke, no credibility.

I guess you are in favor of social distancing because everyone has been social distancing from YOU long before Coivid came along!

I bet you love masks because that was the only way YOU could get close to real people - by wearing a mask!

You are the fact-free babbler.

I gave you chapter and verse about what is really happening, and yes 100,000 have died and the moron is playing golf over memorial day weekend. And he was warned specifically way back in January but wished it away, not doing what was possible to reduce the disaster.

I gave you chapter and verse about epidemiology, projections and the science.
You are still taking your 2 Ben's advice.

All Ben Stupider's

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Are you insinuatin' that Hcap is socially repugnant in the facial area of his old decrepit body?

Ah the sorcerer and his apprentice. Getting your clock cleaned on the religious thread again. Running out of insults there, Mr Sorcerer, so you pop up your feeble brain here?

You and Tom a match made in the monkey house in the Bronx zoo.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

You are the fact-free babbler.

I gave you chapter and verse about what is really happening, and yes 100,000 have died and the moron is playing golf over memorial day weekend. And he was warned specifically way back in January but wished it away, not doing what was possible to reduce the disaster.

I gave you chapter and verse about epidemiology, projections and the science.
You are still taking your 2 Ben's advice.

All Ben Stupider's

What should Trump be doing: leading a procession of professional funeral mourners and wailers as he makes his rounds visiting all the covid-19 dead!?

What are you doing today? Are you crying crocodile tears for the dead, or are you celebrating this visitation of the virus to our shores because you see it as a golden political opportunity to wreck Trump?