Two absolute tools

[PaceAdvantage]

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[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESEwXvABzOE

[Cuffdaddy]

You can feel the humiliation.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESEwXvABzOE

Harris is vaccinated with two boosters. She has had Covid, so she has natural immunity. I’m certain she has tested and tested negative.
So, who cares.

[chrisl]

Title should be, Two absolute stools.

[OntheRail]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Harris is vaccinated with two boosters. She has had Covid, so she has natural immunity. I’m certain she has tested and tested negative.
So, who cares.

Almost on cue...

But Joe's double vaxx'd and quadruple boosted... still got it again. And ain't you on record touting how Natural Immunity was no Immunity at all. And how only being vaxx and fully boosted would protect you form ever getting Rona... and mask up you selfish mutherfker the life you may save is my own.

All the sudden cause it's the number 2 Dipshit... move along nothing to see.

Mr. Hypocrisy comes to Lib-splan it all away.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by OntheRail

Almost on cue...

But Joe's double vaxx'd and quadruple boosted... still got it again. And ain't you on record touting how Natural Immunity was no Immunity at all. And how only being vaxx and fully boosted would protect you form ever getting Rona... and mask up you selfish mutherfker the life you may save is my own.

All the sudden cause it's the number 2 Dipshit... move along nothing to see.

Mr. Hypocrisy comes to Lib-splan it all away.

Hypocritical behavior from liberals is so common I don't even think it is worth mentioning any more, it should be assumed. Just like no reason to mention all starting NFL QBs are multi-millionaires.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by OntheRail

Almost on cue...

But Joe's double vaxx'd and quadruple boosted... still got it again. And ain't you on record touting how Natural Immunity was no Immunity at all. And how only being vaxx and fully boosted would protect you form ever getting Rona... and mask up you selfish mutherfker the life you may save is my own.

All the sudden cause it's the number 2 Dipshit... move along nothing to see.

Mr. Hypocrisy comes to Lib-splan it all away.

What I said was the problem with Natural immunity is you have to get the disease before you can get the immunity. And with this disease you could die. I never said be vaccinated and boosted was an absolute guarantee against contracting Covid. No scientist or medical professional ever said that. Your changes of not becoming infected increase exponentially but never reach 100%.

[Cuffdaddy]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Harris is vaccinated with two boosters. She has had Covid, so she has natural immunity. I’m certain she has tested and tested negative.
So, who cares.

The CDC cares and she went against guidelines and was not wearing a mask, that was the question posed to the two frozen stooges.

Much like you, when they do not have the answer they result to lies and feigned ignorance.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Cuffdaddy

The CDC cares and she went against guidelines and was not wearing a mask, that was the question posed to the two frozen stooges.

Much like you, when they do not have the answer they result to lies and feigned ignorance.

You forgot to add deflection, Mostie isn't guilty of that for the most part, but those that won't stoop to defending Biden-Harris will start their rebuttal talking about Trump.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by mostpost

What I said was the problem with Natural immunity is you have to get the disease before you can get the immunity. And with this disease you could die. I never said be vaccinated and boosted was an absolute guarantee against contracting Covid. No scientist or medical professional ever said that. Your changes of not becoming infected increase exponentially but never reach 100%.

Joe Biden said it.

The president.

And you always told me the words of a president matter.

[Cuffdaddy]

Originally Posted by mostpost

What I said was the problem with Natural immunity is you have to get the disease before you can get the immunity. And with this disease you could die. I never said be vaccinated and boosted was an absolute guarantee against contracting Covid. No scientist or medical professional ever said that. Your changes of not becoming infected increase exponentially but never reach 100%.

More lies, a very consistent fraud.

March 30 of 2021.

[Jeff P]

Problem is the data from newer studies suggests our immune systems 'imprint' on the first strain of the Covid-19 virus we are exposed to similar to the way the human immune system 'imprints' on the first strain of Influenza virus we are exposed to during early childhood.

The concept is called Original Antigenic Sin.

Here's an article written before Covid and before FDA, CDC, NIH, and Big Pharma, etc. decided to ignore a lot of things known about the way our immune systems work.

The Journal of Immunology | January 15, 2019
Original Antigenic Sin: How First Exposure Shapes Lifelong Anti–Influenza Virus Immune Responses:
https://www.jimmunol.org/content/202/2/335

The original “original antigenic sin”

The term was first coined by Thomas Francis in 1960 (1). In his seminal study, Francis observed that hemagglutination inhibition assay titers were highest against seasonal influenza strains to which specific age cohorts had first been exposed (2). These observations were supported by serum absorption experiments, which confirmed that the vast majority of anti–influenza virus Abs in a population were cross-reactive against the pioneer strain of that age group (3).

Taken together, these data led Francis to postulate that subsequent infections with similar influenza virus strains preferentially boost the Ab response against the original strain (2). Although OAS has often historically been depicted as a problematic response, recent data have demonstrated that, in certain contexts, eliciting OAS may also be beneficial.

The critical role of primary exposure in shaping the composition of the Ab repertoire was not only observed in humans after influenza virus infections; this phenomenon was also observed in animal models and in the context of other infectious agents. For example, additional serum absorption experiments in ferrets infected in succession with three different influenza virus strains demonstrated that nearly all of the host Abs after the infection series were reactive against the first strain, only a fraction of serum Abs could be absorbed by the secondary virus, and fewer yet by the tertiary virus (3). These results could be replicated using sera of human donors who had been vaccinated against various influenza virus strains (3–6) and also using sera from rats that had been serially infected (7). In addition to influenza virus infections, OAS has also been reported in children who were exposed to sequential dengue virus infections (8). In all cases, the manifestation of OAS is fundamentally dependent upon the relatedness of Ags between primary and secondary infections as this phenomenon is not observed in the context of sequential exposure to distantly related (or unrelated) Ags (9).

Effects of OAS on susceptibility to infection

Although the effects of OAS can in certain cases be beneficial by enhancing an individual’s or cohort’s relative protection against future infections when the strains are antigenically related, it follows that this phenomenon can be problematic when strains are distantly related, leading to increased susceptibility to later infections. Using single year of age data, our group reanalyzed the infamous “W-shaped” mortality curve caused by the 1918/19 H1N1 Spanish Flu pandemic. We reported that those born in 1890, the year of the H3Nx “Russian Flu” pandemic, experienced an unusual peak in mortality (23). This phenomenon recurred when we examined the single-year mortality data from the 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu pandemic and found an unexpected peak in mortality for those born during the 1957 H2N2 Asian Flu pandemic (36). This led us to hypothesize that early-life imprinting by pandemic strains of influenza virus might increase susceptibility during subsequent pandemics caused by antigenically distinct strains.

In layman's terms if your first exposure to Covid-19 is from the virus itself, your immune system 'imprints' on the whole virus and as a result you develop robust and long lasting immunity to the whole virus of subsequent strains (at least the subsequent strains so far.)

Data from recent studies suggests:

The newer strains of Omicron (whole virus) are not (yet) genetically distant enough from the whole virus of previous strains, including the original, to pose a serious risk to the unvaccinated who have Natural Immunity resulting from previous infection.

But the protein spike mutations of the newer Omicron strains are genetically distant enough from the protein spike of the original strain that the vaccines are based on that the vaccines (now) offer very little protection against the newer Omicron strains.

Based on everything I've read, it's incredibly unlikely Joe will develop natural immunity resulting from of his current infection.

It's highly likely the memory cells of his immune system are prevented from doing that because they already 'imprinted' on the spike protein (and only the spike protein) of the original strain he was exposed to from vaccination.

And yes, this is an alarming train of thought. One that was warned about by many respected doctors and researchers prior to vaccine rollout whose voices were silenced and subsequently ignored.

--Edit: The Washington State Dept. of Public Health published an update to their breakthrough infection data on 07-20-2022:
https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/fil...oughReport.pdf

For the past three months roughly 70% of all new cases in the State of Washington have been among the fully vaccinated and boosted.

clickable thumbnail below from page 6 at the above link.


-jp

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[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Joe Biden said it.

The president.

And you always told me the words of a president matter.

Biden also said 9mm bullets blown the lungs out of people, that is why I have a loaded .357 revolver for home defense in the night stand. Even though the .357 shoots slightly larger rounds, I don't want to be doing anything more than mopping up blood from a couple center mass shots. No way do I want lung matter all over the place to clean up, gross. If I had not already sold my 9mm I would have after I heard that. I also would not want to shoot an intruder with a .223 round, no way do I want to go around looking for their head and limbs.

[davew]

OMG, how ingenious of Joe's handlers to infect him before he went to visit his 'friends' in Israel and Saudi Arabia. I hope none of the leaders there catch what he is spreading.