Delta cancels after running two races on a fast track?

[Vinman]

Anyone know why they cancelled tonite? Couldn't find any explaination on their website.

Vinman

[lamboguy]

i feel like i just won about $300, its the best news i've had in ages

[ronsmac]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

i feel like i just won about $300, its the best news i've had in ages

I take it you're not a big fan of Delta.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Vinman

Anyone know why they cancelled tonite? Couldn't find any explaination on their website.

Vinman

Someone on TVG (Gino?) said there was some sort of electrical problem, who knows.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

Someone on TVG (Gino?) said there was some sort of electrical problem, who knows.

Possible, they haven't quite figured out electricity in Louisiana yet.

[ArlJim78]

you've got to love PM thoroughbred action, the execution, way it runs like a well oiled machine.

the electrical failures.
the late jockey changes.
the horses returning to the paddock for equipment adjustments.
the tote delays.
the late scratches.
the "lighting system needs to be rebooted" slight delay (Sam Houston tonight)

[jdhanover]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

you've got to love PM thoroughbred action, the execution, way it runs like a well oiled machine.

the electrical failures.
the late jockey changes.
the horses returning to the paddock for equipment adjustments.
the tote delays.
the late scratches.
the "lighting system needs to be rebooted" slight delay (Sam Houston tonight)

Just like this year's Super Bowl.....

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

you've got to love PM thoroughbred action, the execution, way it runs like a well oiled machine.

the electrical failures.
the late jockey changes.
the horses returning to the paddock for equipment adjustments.
the tote delays.
the late scratches.
the "lighting system needs to be rebooted" slight delay (Sam Houston tonight)

Not to forget the ULTIMATE equipment changes not being announced until 4 minutes to post.

[ArlJim78]

the one that always gets me is the late jockey change. why? change of heart? needs to take a dump? doesn't want to miss seinfeld?

[duncan04]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

the one that always gets me is the late jockey change. why? change of heart? needs to take a dump? doesn't want to miss seinfeld?

Sometimes they don't like the way the horse is warming up.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

the one that always gets me is the late jockey change. why? change of heart? needs to take a dump? doesn't want to miss seinfeld?

When i see these late jock changes from "top" guys to Joe Blow, i get concerned that the top guy hated the way the horse warmed up and was like "im not riding this one". Jocks won't scratch a horse too often, so they'll just get the last man standing to ride.

This happened at Delta recently (of all places!) one of the top guys got off a horse in the post parade, some 1% rider who can barely sit on a horse got on and the horse jogged (if i remember correctly) and paid a great price. He either jogged or raced a hole in the wind and just got beat.

Its either this...or a rerun of the Soup Nazi.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

...Jocks won't scratch a horse too often...

Yeah, like never. The track vet will. And if he sends it back to the paddock for another rider, he wasn't seeing what the jock was complaining about.

It's also the rare case that the named rider is riding a little hurt that day, or hurts himself warming up, and just can't collect himself in the few minutes before the outrider calls them to post.

[SandyW]

With all this crap going on, is it any wonder that it is getting harder and harder to cash a ticket.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith

Yeah, like never. The track vet will. And if he sends it back to the paddock for another rider, he wasn't seeing what the jock was complaining about.

It's also the rare case that the named rider is riding a little hurt that day, or hurts himself warming up, and just can't collect himself in the few minutes before the outrider calls them to post.

The track vet will scratch if the jock says "hey doc, he doesnt feel right". If Gary Stevens or a McCarron or a Jerry bailey tells the vet this one is "off" is the vet going to say "get in that gate and stop complaining".

I dont know exactly how it works but i have to imagine if the jock tells the vet the horse is off and he doesnt want to ride him, i gotta think the vet is going to call in the scratch.

is this not how it works?

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

The track vet will scratch if the jock says "hey doc, he doesnt feel right". If Gary Stevens or a McCarron or a Jerry bailey tells the vet this one is "off" is the vet going to say "get in that gate and stop complaining".

I dont know exactly how it works but i have to imagine if the jock tells the vet the horse is off and he doesnt want to ride him, i gotta think the vet is going to call in the scratch.

is this not how it works?

I just explained it to you. A vet will either call a rider over if he sees something he doesn't like or the rider will bring it to the vet if he feels something he doesn't like. The vet makes the decision to scratch or not. If he decides that in his opinion that the rider's concern is unfounded, the named jock is excused from the mount, and the horse is returned to the paddock for a late change - generally the 1%er you referred to who is there all day in the room as the "room rider", and whose job is to basically be the guy that will pick up anything that comes open since most other top jocks don't jump at the chance to rider something that another jock declines to ride.

Sometimes jocks have their minds made up going in that they really don't want to ride one and go out there knowing that if they make it out of the paddock and the horse ends up scratched based on their complaint to the vet, they're going to get paid.

Nowhere did I even remotely imply that a vet is going to force a jock to ride. If nobody in the room wants to pick it up, he's a scratch, but not a vet scratch, thus no list.