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12-13-2014, 08:34 PM
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Ugly incident at CT, no contest in Race 4
Route race, horse fell in the lower turn around the 2nd time and then ran the wrong way after she got up, jocks kept riding and the loose horse beelined right thru the field approaching the top of the lane and ran into another horse.
I think the loose horse ran into someone and then another jock #1 got unseated trying to avoid the horse.
Great job by a lot of these jocks to avoid this horse, this could have been a lot worse. Lets hope (somehow) all horses and jocks are ok, but the jock who originally fell hit hard.
Last edited by Stillriledup; 12-13-2014 at 08:35 PM.
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12-13-2014, 09:51 PM
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That was horrible...where the heck were the outriders? They should of stop the race on the back stretch and had some way... either beacon lights along the rail or something to alert the jockeys of trouble one the track ahead.
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12-13-2014, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by OntheRail
That was horrible...where the heck were the outriders? They should of stop the race on the back stretch and had some way... either beacon lights along the rail or something to alert the jockeys of trouble one the track ahead.
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Well they were listening to SRU after the no contest race a couple of weeks ago where they called it off too early eventhough the jock was off the track.
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12-14-2014, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Some_One
Well they were listening to SRU after the no contest race a couple of weeks ago where they called it off too early eventhough the jock was off the track.
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Finally, somebody listens to SRU ! 
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12-14-2014, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
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The race is no longer available, as are most races that involve spills.
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12-14-2014, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
The race is no longer available, as are most races that involve spills.
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That shows you how times have changed, I watched an old Breeders cup on HRTV, and NBC showed a horse breaking down and two horse falling in super slow motion 2 or 3 different times.
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12-14-2014, 12:59 PM
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I remember NBC showing the sad sight of Go for Wand struggling to her feet
and trying to get to the finish line with her leg dangling before they quickly pulled the camera away. 
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12-14-2014, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ronsmac
That shows you how times have changed, I watched an old Breeders cup on HRTV, and NBC showed a horse breaking down and two horse falling in super slow motion 2 or 3 different times.
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NBC has gotten huge amounts of criticism from the industry for showing spills. They showed Eight Belles quite a few times, and Go for Wand of course. NBC's position, which I think is correct, is "we're journalists, a horse breaking down in a big race is big news, so we are going to cover the story". The people who run the sport would prefer that NBC just unquestionably promote it.
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12-14-2014, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
The race is no longer available, as are most races that involve spills.
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I wonder if on the advice of legal counsel such replays are removed?
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12-14-2014, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike
I wonder if on the advice of legal counsel such replays are removed?
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I can't imagine why any lawyer would advise them to do this. The replays are publicly available. Someone's going to post them on youtube anyway. (I remember that for awhle, the Breeders' Cup didn't want the full replay of the 1990 Breeders Cup Distaff up on the web. That became impossible to maintain once youtube came around.)
But more importantly, in any litigation over this, the replays are fully discoverable. In any regulatory proceeding, the same is true. I'm sure the stewards in West Virginia have copies of them. Indeed, by pulling them off the website, you send the opposite message-- that you have something to hide. That could hurt them in any legal proceeding.
If that replay is staying off their website, I would suspect that is the result of advice from their PR department, not their legal department.
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12-14-2014, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
I can't imagine why any lawyer would advise them to do this. The replays are publicly available. Someone's going to post them on youtube anyway. (I remember that for awhle, the Breeders' Cup didn't want the full replay of the 1990 Breeders Cup Distaff up on the web. That became impossible to maintain once youtube came around.)
But more importantly, in any litigation over this, the replays are fully discoverable. In any regulatory proceeding, the same is true. I'm sure the stewards in West Virginia have copies of them. Indeed, by pulling them off the website, you send the opposite message-- that you have something to hide. That could hurt them in any legal proceeding.
If that replay is staying off their website, I would suspect that is the result of advice from their PR department, not their legal department.
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All valid points, but I never put anything past the legal community.
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12-15-2014, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
I can't imagine why any lawyer would advise them to do this. The replays are publicly available. Someone's going to post them on youtube anyway. (I remember that for awhle, the Breeders' Cup didn't want the full replay of the 1990 Breeders Cup Distaff up on the web. That became impossible to maintain once youtube came around.)
But more importantly, in any litigation over this, the replays are fully discoverable. In any regulatory proceeding, the same is true. I'm sure the stewards in West Virginia have copies of them. Indeed, by pulling them off the website, you send the opposite message-- that you have something to hide. That could hurt them in any legal proceeding.
If that replay is staying off their website, I would suspect that is the result of advice from their PR department, not their legal department.
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Its disrespect for the horseplayer. People need to see these replays to make gambling decisions, why they're taken down is a mystery.
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12-15-2014, 12:20 AM
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I see that the chart isn't even available and this is definitely wrong as the betting public has a right to at least a description as to how the competing horses were performing in the race.
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12-15-2014, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Its disrespect for the horseplayer. People need to see these replays to make gambling decisions, why they're taken down is a mystery.
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I think you're wrong. I think it's that they don't want video of a nasty accident out there.
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