Racing fans etiquette.

[Imriledup]

I have a friend who knows i'm a good handicapper and he seems to always want to know my best bet of the day. Is it proper etiquette for him to ask for the pick and then not play it? Part of me feels like if you ask, you should play the pick.

This got me thinking about other etiquette stuff.

Another one that seems to bug me is when 2 people are having a conversation at the track or simo center and one person is talking loud enough where you are forced to hear their thoughts and ideas on a race. I really don't want to hear your pick or theory on the race, i've found that a very high percentage of these people don't know that much and they'll say something that will get into my brain that i don't want there. No need to talk loudly, talk softly and carry a big stick, no one wants to know your pick.

Some loud mouth woman was at simulcasting during the WV Derby and she was talking out loud during the race saying that Big Drama was going to stop and be off the board, she kept talking and talking and i'm thinking "STFU i want to enjoy the race"

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by Imriledup

I have a friend who knows i'm a good handicapper and he seems to always want to know my best bet of the day. Is it proper etiquette for him to ask for the pick and then not play it? Part of me feels like if you ask, you should play the pick.

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What planet do you play horses at. People ask each other every day about what they are picking. Just because you or anyone else gives out a pick, doesn't mean that the person has to play it. That's all part of the social banter that takes place at a track. If you pick a winner, be thankful he didn't play it - with heat anyways.

[Bison]

Yep, It's all part and parcel when you attend the track or simulcast.

[firstoffclaim]

etiquette is for Ms Manners, not to be used in the same sentence with racetrack

[Steven Kolb]

My favorite (?) is the guy in front of me who "spreads out" at the betting window and takes over three minutes to figure out a Superfecta ticket.

Where are the Wagering Police when you need them?

[Track Collector]

Sharing one's picks is a personal choice that each and every one of us has to face sooner or later. Either share it without expectations (that they play the pick) or politely decline to share.

As to loud people at the track or OTW, choosing to speak with them politely will often not result in the desired outcome, so avoidance is the best option. When small quarters make moving away impossible or not practical, investing in an inexpensive pair of removable ear plugs is a good alternative.

[Robert Goren]

I do wish for the return of WIN only windows. Windows whose machines could only handle WIN PLACE or SHOW bets! I hate being stuck behind someone trying check out his TRI and SUPRA bet to make sure the teller did not make an error.

[riskman]

Most of the time I wager from home on line or on the phone. Once a week I visit a local Pub/Rest that has an OTB operation. The minute I walk in it starts with "who do you like" syndrome. In a way, I am flattered that some value my opinion but in no way do I ever give an opinion on "their" choice or suggest any form of ticket construction for a wager. It comes back to bite you in the ass if it does not work out.
Occasionally ,I partner up with with a few guys for some pick 4's and Supers. It makes it interesting and we have some fun watching the races, having a few beers and burgers. I look forward to going out as it breaks the week up and at times we actually make some money.

[Hanover1]

Originally Posted by Imriledup

I have a friend who knows i'm a good handicapper and he seems to always want to know my best bet of the day. Is it proper etiquette for him to ask for the pick and then not play it? Part of me feels like if you ask, you should play the pick.

This got me thinking about other etiquette stuff.

Another one that seems to bug me is when 2 people are having a conversation at the track or simo center and one person is talking loud enough where you are forced to hear their thoughts and ideas on a race. I really don't want to hear your pick or theory on the race, i've found that a very high percentage of these people don't know that much and they'll say something that will get into my brain that i don't want there. No need to talk loudly, talk softly and carry a big stick, no one wants to know your pick.

Some loud mouth woman was at simulcasting during the WV Derby and she was talking out loud during the race saying that Big Drama was going to stop and be off the board, she kept talking and talking and i'm thinking "STFU i want to enjoy the race"

If hes gonna fire, then give him different numbers, catch better odds on your picks, cash, and apologise for the bad advice. I bet to win, and maximize my return, its all fair game........he wont ask you twice.

[Imriledup]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

What planet do you play horses at. People ask each other every day about what they are picking. Just because you or anyone else gives out a pick, doesn't mean that the person has to play it. That's all part of the social banter that takes place at a track. If you pick a winner, be thankful he didn't play it - with heat anyways.

But the point i was trying to make is that i don't 'give out' the pick. If someone asks me for a pick and than doesn't play it, that just rubs me the wrong way. If you asked Michael Jordan how to shoot the basketball and he showed you and than you said "thank Mike, but i decided to do my own thing" do you think he would be at least irritated that you wasted his time?

[illinoisbred]

My favorite racetrack antic and something often funny to watch is the guy standing in front of a tv monitor slapping his hand with a program while yelling out the jockeys name."come on Gomez,come on Gomez get into him"If the horse starts to hang he'll often start slapping his thigh. This is really funny when suddenly its no longer Gomez but say Talamo he's urging on.

[QuarterCrack]

Originally Posted by Imriledup

But the point i was trying to make is that i don't 'give out' the pick. If someone asks me for a pick and than doesn't play it, that just rubs me the wrong way. If you asked Michael Jordan how to shoot the basketball and he showed you and than you said "thank Mike, but i decided to do my own thing" do you think he would be at least irritated that you wasted his time?

Nice to know we are so blessed to have the Michael Jordan of handicapping in our presence. How anyone can bet anything other than what he says is just ludicrous!

[Greyfox]

[QUOTE=Imriledup]If you asked Michael Jordan how to shoot the basketball and he showed you and than you said "thank Mike, but i decided to do my own thing" do you think he would be at least irritated that you wasted his time?[/QUOTE]

No. I don't think Michael Jordan would be irritated in the least. He knows that there are many paths up the Mountain. Nor would Tiger Woods be offended if I didn't follow his advice on how to hit a golf ball. He knows that everyone has a different physique.

With respect to your not giving your friend the true pick when he asks you, says something about you as a friend. (You're the one who said he was a friend remember.) Unless you're betting some Hicksville track his bet on your horses would likely not change the odds very much, if it all.

If you don't want to hear others opinions, computer betting is also an option.

[GaryG]

I have a close friend who is an excellent player (better than even me...haha). He asks me who I like as a cross-check against his own picks to see if he missed something. Some of those discussions have been very productive and insightful for me and hopefully for him too.

[Bison]

Originally Posted by illinoisbred

My favorite racetrack antic and something often funny to watch is the guy standing in front of a tv monitor slapping his hand with a program while yelling out the jockeys name."come on Gomez,come on Gomez get into him"If the horse starts to hang he'll often start slapping his thigh. This is really funny when suddenly its no longer Gomez but say Talamo he's urging on.

I think that's great when people do that. Certainly nothing wrong with it.
So the guy has a ticket alive to 2 horses, and one quits, he's not allowed to root for the other?