U.S. Taxing ex-pats in Canada

[shots]

Just great. Give all the illegals US citizenship and tax them whether they stay or go back to where they came from.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith

Good thing you used all the local services paid for primarily with local and state and sales taxes to make the point. I'm hard pressed to come up with similar examples of how everyone benefits from their federal confiscations either.

Tom said, "Anyone who avoids paying taxes is OK in my book" He didn't specify state, local or federal. But if you want examples of federal programs that help the citizens, I have plenty.
Start with Medicare which helps seniors with healthcare. Add Social Security which aids them in achieving a comfortable retirement. Our Armed Forces protect us from external threats. The EPA protects the environment. OSHA makes sure we work in safe factories. The FAA regulates the sky. The FDA makes sure out food and drugs are safe and effective. The SEC monitors and prosecutes securities fraud. The NLRB protects workers.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by DRIVEWAY

While you pay your taxes, you are OK with others who do not.

Are you willing to pick up the slack for those who don't pay? I don't think so. The deficit, the debt, the interest on the debt are all affecting the value of your assets and your future taxes. Eventually SS and Medicare will be affected.

Think it through. Everyone needs to pay their fair share.

Slack already being carried.
Why stop there?

No way any of us can do as much damage as Obama and the dums have already down and will continue to do. Screw it - let's ALL go on welfare. Let's ALL stay home from work. Let's ALL demand we be taken care of by Uncle Sugar.

Let's sink this ship.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Tom said, "Anyone who avoids paying taxes is OK in my book" He didn't specify state, local or federal. But if you want examples of federal programs that help the citizens, I have plenty.
Start with Medicare which helps seniors with healthcare. Add Social Security which aids them in achieving a comfortable retirement. Our Armed Forces protect us from external threats. The EPA protects the environment. OSHA makes sure we work in safe factories. The FAA regulates the sky. The FDA makes sure out food and drugs are safe and effective. The SEC monitors and prosecutes securities fraud. The NLRB protects workers.

All of which are not working for the people, but rather operate to varying extremes as PACs to be used as receptacles or outlets for party or ideological influence.

Police and fire legitimately serve the public interest. Your example on that front is well taken. Those acronyms you mention above, excepting the military (the only one in the list that I'm sure you'd loudly campaign to have budgetary reductions and less tax dollars funneled to), have, like all else, continued farther down the road of being patsy enforcement/policy arms of whatever executive is in control.

Few of those things do as you claim. Mostly they help the executive branch promote the party and fundraise through headlines.

[Tom]

Tom said, "Anyone who avoids paying taxes is OK in my book" He didn't specify state, local or federal.

Of course I meant ALL.
And fines, levies, tickets.....why should ANYONE have to pay money to an illegal and rogue government?

Just quit work and show up at your city hall demanding to be fed.
Don't leave - until you get supper.
Come back for breakfast.

Take whatever car you find parked downtown - you are ENTITLED to it.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Oh, and Mosite... don't know what you've been up to or why you've been scarce around these parts recently... but glad you are back for some gratuitous fun with me advocating for satan.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by AndyC

A US citizen who pays foreign taxes on income is allowed a tax credit for the amount paid up to the amount that would have been owed to the US. Example: US citizen has $100,000 of income taxed in a foreign country that results in foreign taxes of $15,000. The US citizen files a US tax return on the same income resulting in US tax of $20,000. The US citizen would get a credit against his $20,000 of $15,000 resulting in a net liability to the US of $5,000. If the foreign tax paid was greater than $20,000 the credit would be limited to $20,000.

Most all foreign income tax is a wash. You are effectively paying the U.S. rate regardless. If you are a full time expat you are allowed 97,600 in income exclusion or tax credits.

The issue in the article seems to be self employment taxes specifically regarding to the ACA. It is my understanding that if you participate in the SS/health care system of your host nation then those dollars are trade outs as well...per negotiated treaty. Canada is one of those participating nations so I question the accuracy of the report.

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Tom said, "Anyone who avoids paying taxes is OK in my book" He didn't specify state, local or federal. But if you want examples of federal programs that help the citizens, I have plenty.
Start with Medicare which helps seniors with healthcare. Add Social Security which aids them in achieving a comfortable retirement. Our Armed Forces protect us from external threats. The EPA protects the environment. OSHA makes sure we work in safe factories. The FAA regulates the sky. The FDA makes sure out food and drugs are safe and effective. The SEC monitors and prosecutes securities fraud. The NLRB protects workers.

Many of the organization examples you cite have been polluted beyond recognition by politics. They do good things, but they also do bad things in the name of the party in power that day. That's not a dem or gop problem. That's an American problem.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith

Oh, and Mosite... don't know what you've been up to or why you've been scarce around these parts recently... but glad you are back for some gratuitous fun with me advocating for satan.

There hasn't been a lot going here lately as far as I can see. Just a lot of silliness posted by JR and DJ of SD. And who needs good PR more than Satan?

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by TJDave

Most all foreign income tax is a wash. You are effectively paying the U.S. rate regardless. If you are a full time expat you are allowed 97,600 in income exclusion or tax credits.

The issue in the article seems to be self employment taxes specifically regarding to the ACA. It is my understanding that if you participate in the SS/health care system of your host nation then those dollars are trade outs as well...per negotiated treaty. Canada is one of those participating nations so I question the accuracy of the report.

You effectively pay the rate that is the highest, the US rate or the rate for the country where you are living. As for the income exclusion, it is the "earned " income exclusion and there are several hurdles to jump over before you qualify.

I thought the article stated that it was the additional tax on investment income that was in question. There is a medicare surcharge on wages or SE income that exceed certain levels but I didn't see that being mentioned as an issue.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by Tom

Of course I meant ALL.
And fines, levies, tickets.....why should ANYONE have to pay money to an illegal and rogue government?

Just quit work and show up at your city hall demanding to be fed.
Don't leave - until you get supper.
Come back for breakfast.

Take whatever car you find parked downtown - you are ENTITLED to it.

Obama has really gotten to you, hasn't he? Relax, he only has 2 and half years left.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

Obama has really gotten to you, hasn't he? Relax, he only has 2 and half years left.

Post of the second term

[rastajenk]

Originally Posted by tucker6

Many of the organization examples you cite have been polluted beyond recognition by politics. They do good things, but they also do bad things in the name of the party in power that day. That's not a dem or gop problem. That's an American problem.

Hey, I've got an idea: Let's federalize horse racing!

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

Obama has really gotten to you, hasn't he? Relax, he only has 2 and half years left.

Aren't I quoting the liberal point of view?
Not just Obama- ALL liberals.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by mostpost

There hasn't been a lot going here lately as far as I can see. Just a lot of silliness posted by JR and DJ of SD. And who needs good PR more than Satan?

Your visibility here is in direct proportion to your ability to refute this administrations negative press. When you pretty much disappear, I know the story has legs....