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10-01-2017, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Afleet
What a brilliant run. Only complaint is why did Dettori hit her 3-4 times w/the whip? The last one or two were not needed IMHO
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The purse was 6 mil. He was taking no chances. She'll be ok. Throughbreds are used to getting whipped.
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10-02-2017, 01:12 PM
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Other than what has been mentioned what is amazing about this filly is she has been winning by big open lengths all year. Not easy on turf. On a side note Chantilly is a very beautiful place.
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10-04-2017, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
It's fairly common for 3yo fillies to win this race (along with other top open races on turf). That tells us one of two things:
Our 3yo fillies should have as easy of a time winning the BCC and similar races, but we just don't give them the opportunity, or
The pace and surface, along with a large weight break, is an equalizer.
I think it's the latter, and that it takes a lot more physical strength to do the same on dirt.
I don't think the heralded European stars are any better than our American stars. We're just tougher on ours rather than having nothing but gushing and glowing reviews and words.
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Another possibility is that some of the very best males retire before they reach their peak at 4 or 5. It's probably multiple factors, pace, surface, weight concession, and some retirements. No doubt though this one is VERY good.
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10-04-2017, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
Another possibility is that some of the very best males retire before they reach their peak at 4 or 5. It's probably multiple factors.
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We sure have been seeing that here in the US lately with several older horses sticking around and running huge races.
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10-06-2017, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
Another possibility is that some of the very best males retire before they reach their peak at 4 or 5. It's probably multiple factors, pace, surface, weight concession, and some retirements. No doubt though this one is VERY good.
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She's very good, but the weight concession definitely helps. Some of these fillies are fully mature as a 3yo, but still get a 6 lbs weight allowance on top of the 4 lbs gender allowance. Over 12 furlongs that's about 8 lengths.
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10-06-2017, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by gm10
She's very good, but the weight concession definitely helps. Some of these fillies are fully mature as a 3yo, but still get a 6 lbs weight allowance on top of the 4 lbs gender allowance. Over 12 furlongs that's about 8 lengths.
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They may be able to reproduce, but I wouldn't say any horse is fully matured at 3YO.
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10-06-2017, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by spiketoo
They may be able to reproduce, but I wouldn't say any horse is fully matured at 3YO.
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Perhaps not, no. An early foal who matures early, like Enable, is still at a big advantage, though. Having said that, she's obviously very good, and a race isn't run according to a formula. She might win again next year.
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10-09-2017, 09:43 AM
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Will Race Next Year
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