Rash of Drug Positives at Parx

[Lancelot10]

Saw this over at COTH..


"If anyone is interested in seeing how corrupt this business is- take a look at the following letter!

http://www.pahbpa.com/NewsDisplay.asp?STORYID=673

http://www.patha.org/patha.org/image...%201-31-11.jpg

The trainers who have had positives for this drug called Carisoprodol, get a measly slap on the wrist, telling them not to use it as it has no therapeutic use in racehorses. OK.. now this is a class 2 drug, is a muscle relaxer and also used to manage pain... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000717

MANY MANY of the big named trainers at Penn National and Parx have received positives for it. But get this, a bunch of them are using the excuse that the Pigeons got into the feed tubs of non-entered horses and contaminated the tubs of enterered horses and thats how the drug got into their systems... Believable- huh??

Whats sad is a lot of the small time trainers whose horses finished behind the positives- do not have the money to hire an attorney, to help defend them against the injustice being done to them.

So, once again it looks like the corruption will win.."

[Robert Goren]

The great thing about racinos is that when you play the slots there, you don't have to worry about whether your machine was doped or not.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by Lancelot10

Saw this over at COTH..


"If anyone is interested in seeing how corrupt this business is- take a look at the following letter!

http://www.pahbpa.com/NewsDisplay.asp?STORYID=673

http://www.patha.org/patha.org/image...%201-31-11.jpg

The trainers who have had positives for this drug called Carisoprodol, get a measly slap on the wrist, telling them not to use it as it has no therapeutic use in racehorses. OK.. now this is a class 2 drug, is a muscle relaxer and also used to manage pain... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000717

MANY MANY of the big named trainers at Penn National and Parx have received positives for it. But get this, a bunch of them are using the excuse that the Pigeons got into the feed tubs of non-entered horses and contaminated the tubs of enterered horses and thats how the drug got into their systems... Believable- huh??

Whats sad is a lot of the small time trainers whose horses finished behind the positives- do not have the money to hire an attorney, to help defend them against the injustice being done to them.

So, once again it looks like the corruption will win.."

its a joke over there. the stewards are using this rash of drug positives to stall me out from investigating a case that i have there. i am probably going to have to go to a federal court to get an injunction.

[Lancelot10]

It's total BS over there at Parx... The sad thing is that some of the trainers affected by the "positive' trainers being exoneration don't have a leg to stand on and if they do want to contest the decision have to hire an attorney.Maybe they can pool together and hire their own attorney, but I think this is going to be another case of it getting swept under the rug!

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by Lancelot10

It's total BS over there at Parx... The sad thing is that some of the trainers affected by the "positive' trainers being exoneration don't have a leg to stand on and if they do want to contest the decision have to hire an attorney.Maybe they can pool together and hire their own attorney, but I think this is going to be another case of it getting swept under the rug!

my case is not going to go away, i promise you on that one. they are making a bum out of me in that joint

[toussaud]

[owlet]

It is really sad what this sport has become. A total joke.

[BlueShoe]

Is the moral to the story do not wager on races from Penn or Philly Park?

[Southieboy]

Originally Posted by BlueShoe

Is the moral to the story do not wager on races from Penn or Philly Park?

I don't.

[onefast99]

Originally Posted by Lancelot10

Saw this over at COTH..


"If anyone is interested in seeing how corrupt this business is- take a look at the following letter!

http://www.pahbpa.com/NewsDisplay.asp?STORYID=673

http://www.patha.org/patha.org/image...%201-31-11.jpg

The trainers who have had positives for this drug called Carisoprodol, get a measly slap on the wrist, telling them not to use it as it has no therapeutic use in racehorses. OK.. now this is a class 2 drug, is a muscle relaxer and also used to manage pain... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000717

MANY MANY of the big named trainers at Penn National and Parx have received positives for it. But get this, a bunch of them are using the excuse that the Pigeons got into the feed tubs of non-entered horses and contaminated the tubs of enterered horses and thats how the drug got into their systems... Believable- huh??

Whats sad is a lot of the small time trainers whose horses finished behind the positives- do not have the money to hire an attorney, to help defend them against the injustice being done to them.

So, once again it looks like the corruption will win.."

Who are the trainers that were given a slap on the wrist? Where did you hear about the pigeons contaminating the feed tubs? You are alleging a lot of things here. The letter was out since the end of January. What injustice was done to the horseman who finished behind the un-named trainers who supposedly used a drug that isn't an enhancer by any stretch. You also list the effects of Carisoprodol on humans but not horses, isn't there a difference?

[therussmeister]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

The great thing about racinos is that when you play the slots there, you don't have to worry about whether your machine was doped or not.

I absolutely guarantee slot players worry about whether their machine was "doped." Although that is not the term they use. They are just as cynical as horse players.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by onefast99

Who are the trainers that were given a slap on the wrist? Where did you hear about the pigeons contaminating the feed tubs? You are alleging a lot of things here. The letter was out since the end of January. What injustice was done to the horseman who finished behind the un-named trainers who supposedly used a drug that isn't an enhancer by any stretch. You also list the effects of Carisoprodol on humans but not horses, isn't there a difference?

they just switched the type of drug testing procedures that they are doing there. that is why they came up with so many positives. it really is bs. they are using it as an excuse to fluff me off. i promise you they are not going to be able to fluff me off on this one. if i try to do my own investigation they will throw me out. the stewards are the only ones allowed to investigate anything there. i am going to go way over their heads on this deal, i am going to the us attourney's office if nothing gets started by wednesday.

[Lancelot10]

I am not going to name names but as Lamboguy stated there are 40+ positives for it. The one trainer has taken a video if the pigeons jumping from

one feedtub to another to support his case that they contaminated the racing horse.

The owners who were behind the so-called positives, where not allowed to run their horses in the same condition- ie. if they finished 2nd in a maiden race, they were forced to run in Nw2, but they never received the purse for the maiden win as the trainers who tested positive contested it. Most of the races took place back in Oct/Nov, so for over 2 months these horses were forced to run out of their conditions- which is tougher- but THEY NEVER RECEIVED A WINNING PURSE!!! Now, they are told-"we are sorry, you can run back in the maiden race as we are exhonorating the trainers who tested positive.' So the cheaters get the winning purse and the poor souls who were legit and played by the rules, get a lollipop for their patience!

One owner I know had her horse claimed off of her while running out of her condition because of this BS and the horse was claimed. So now the new trainer has the original condition back- and the owner never got the winning purse...

So, before you say I am making a lot of accusations, go ahead and contact Parx and you can see I speak the truth...

I am friends with a NJ owner and just cannot wait for Monmouth to open so he can take his horses there and we can be done with this joke of a place... Florida here he comes next year!!

[Track Phantom]

I think that serious horse players should hire a PI and an attorney to go after one of these supertrainers. The PI can stelth behind the scenes and gather evidence. Just once, I'd love to see one of these obvious cheaters get prison time (which is what they absolutely deserve). I would donate a fair amount to the cause.

[Lancelot10]

I agree because they are cheating the bettors. Once a horse is claimed off these trainers, many times the next start for the new trainer, they go off as the favorite and run up the track as they run back to their original form before supertrainer... So many bettors are losing money... very sad!!