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12-17-2017, 10:24 PM
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Remington had the horses' weights
I watched the Springboard Derby tonight and Remington displays the weight of each horse.
Why isn't this information routinely available to handicappers? Wouldn't you like to know if a horse took off 30 pounds from his last start?
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12-17-2017, 10:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
I watched the Springboard Derby tonight and Remington displays the weight of each horse.
Why isn't this information routinely available to handicappers? Wouldn't you like to know if a horse took off 30 pounds from his last start?
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I used to think this would be a good idea. But then I realized the trainers would just lie
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12-17-2017, 11:04 PM
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They've been doing that for years, but you have to track it yourself. They don't show like "last three race weights" or anything else, and it isn't available in the program.
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12-18-2017, 12:43 AM
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Where and how are the weights displayed...? Are they available online..?
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12-18-2017, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
Where and how are the weights displayed...? Are they available online..?
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I saw them on the track video feed.
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12-19-2017, 12:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
I saw them on the track video feed.
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Yes, that is it, and it isn't up for more than a minute.
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12-19-2017, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
Yes, that is it, and it isn't up for more than a minute.
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Accurate? I would never put any "weight” into this number
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12-21-2017, 12:10 PM
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Accurate? I would never put any "weight” into this number
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I have no idea if it is accurate. I remember when Freehold put weight in to the program for every running line. At least in harness racing, it had very little predictive value if any at all.
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12-21-2017, 12:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
I watched the Springboard Derby tonight and Remington displays the weight of each horse.
Why isn't this information routinely available to handicappers? Wouldn't you like to know if a horse took off 30 pounds from his last start?
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Do they officially WEIGH these horses on actual SCALES before every start? Otherwise...how can any "weight-difference" in-between starts be ascertained?
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12-21-2017, 12:55 PM
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12-21-2017, 01:00 PM
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I would like to see the weights tracked and posted...Other tracks in other countries do this, notably, I believe, in Hong Kong, and the commentators there routinely reference weight changes/ amounts as part of paddock profiling...
I can think of at least one reason: The Alpha Horse, herd animals, you know, the biggest, tallest, strongest horse in the pack...maybe the others just tend to follow, even if he is not always, the fastest...
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12-21-2017, 01:22 PM
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Thank you.
This is a great idea...that should be implemented at every racetrack in the country...IMO.
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12-21-2017, 02:22 PM
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My wife told me that weights change, character is forever.
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12-21-2017, 03:14 PM
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No way in hell a trainer allows a big weight loss to be recorded.
Owners ask questions........I’m sure when their horses lose weight
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12-22-2017, 03:10 PM
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actual weights could be an interesting angle in handicapping. many horses actually benefit by putting on some more "muscle" weight. Many are not up to snuff nutritionally and lower weight can often mean poorer finishes.
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