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Originally Posted by hcap
Attempted murder is still a crime, and the attempted murderer not a "competitor"
And my guess is when Trump is forced out or impeached, we will know the answer to how many votes were changed.
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The Dems didn't want to go forward with Trump's voting investigation, but... you do you. 
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07-17-2018, 10:21 AM
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#107
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You do not know what Obama was talking about
It was about voter fraud. A different issue than an Enemy aggressive nation attempting manipulating public opinion.
Obama To Trump: 'Stop Whining' over Election
Associated Press
Published on Oct 18, 2016
President Barack Obama on Tuesday tore into Donald Trump for sowing suspicion about the integrity of the U.S. election, telling the Republican presidential nominee to "stop whining" and focus on winning votes. (Oct. 18)
When Trump complained before the election that it was "rigged" against him.
What a cry-babyy youse guys suck up to.Of course your source is Faux Noos
. ..".Trump tweeted that quote Tuesday morning, citing it as proof Democrats’ attitudes changed after he won the election." Apples and oranges
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07-17-2018, 10:48 AM
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#108
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Originally Posted by hcap
You do not know what Obama was talking about
It was about voter fraud. A different issue than an Enemy aggressive nation attempting manipulating public opinion.
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So what you're saying is, the people of the USA have less integrity than the voting machines...
That they can be swayed by an "Enemy aggressive nation" who Obama tried to claim was NOT America's #1 geopolitical enemy.
Gotcha.
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07-17-2018, 10:53 AM
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And my guess is when Trump is forced out or impeached, we will know the answer to how many votes were changed.
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So now you are saying cast votes were physically changed after the fact?
I guess they used the brand new technology. Good thing RUSSIANS always wear RED!
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07-17-2018, 10:57 AM
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#110
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
So what you're saying is, the people of the USA have less integrity than the voting machines...
That they can be swayed by an "Enemy aggressive nation" who Obama tried to claim was NOT America's #1 geopolitical enemy.
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No, the scale of Russian meddling far exceeded voter fraud.
https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/voter-fraud
Myth of Voter Fraud
It is important to protect the integrity of our elections. But we must be careful not to undermine free and fair access to the ballot in the name of preventing voter fraud.
President Donald Trump has repeatedly, and falsely, claimed millions voted illegally. Yet examination after examination of voter fraud claims reveal fraud is very rare, voter impersonation is nearly non-existent, and much of the problems associated with alleged fraud relates to unintentional mistakes by voters or election administrators. Election officials and leaders of the president’s own party also agree fraud is not widespread.
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Trump went on and on and on and on about illegals swaying the popular vote, before and after he won. That's what Obama was criticizing Trump for. Trump took it out of context, as did Lemon Drop Husker.
Get your facts straight.
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07-17-2018, 11:11 AM
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Joe Kennedy did far more meddling than Putin did.
If not for voter fraud, JFK would never have been president.
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07-17-2018, 11:12 AM
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Oh, I have my facts straight.
I wish Obama hadn't caused the nation to let its guard down against Russia.
Maybe we could have stopped them from attempting to manipulate a gullible public's opinion, and this whole mess could have been avoided. It's not good for the country.
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07-17-2018, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
So now you are saying cast votes were physically changed after the fact?
I guess they used the brand new technology. Good thing RUSSIANS always wear RED!
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Manipulation of voter opinion is the crux of the issue.
It may be voting machines were altered, but we only know for sure the Russians "sold" us junk food. Unfortunately American consumers will buy anything, at least to a certain extent. If I remember a good portion bought into Trumps' birth certificate, (born in Kenya fiasco), and even watched "The Apprentice"
Maybe the Ruskies took their cues from Trump as much as from the Gong Show
Solution may be as simple as truth in advertising.
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07-17-2018, 11:25 AM
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Trump will never be forced out or impeached.
He will finish his term, and if he wins in 2020, he will serve another term. He has a great chance.
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07-17-2018, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Manipulation of voter opinion is the crux of the issue.
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Wow. Really reaching, if that is what you feel happened. How was I brainwashed? Give us an example of this "manipulation".
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07-17-2018, 11:39 AM
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#116
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07-17-2018, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by wisconsin
Wow. Really reaching, if that is what you feel happened. How was I brainwashed? Give us an example of this "manipulation".
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Surely you can grasp the concept without reaching at all. But you got to try and I guess that's impossible. 
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07-17-2018, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by wisconsin
Wow. Really reaching, if that is what you feel happened. How was I brainwashed? Give us an example of this "manipulation".
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Statistics is not about one individual. Instead a "population"
Do you remember how many here bought into Trump's birth certificate bull? Just imagine a bunch of "Toms" in those five or so "swung" states.
Enough orangutans would easily "swing" it
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07-17-2018, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
Surely you can grasp the concept without reaching at all. But you got to try and I guess that's impossible. |
Two points.
1. We were manipulated with the TRUTH?
2. Hillary still won the popular vote. Were only people in key electoral vote states manipulated with the truth? States where hillary was too lazy to campaign in?
In all fairness, I can see where any self-respecting liberal would be brainwashed if they ever heard the truth. They have no experience in dealing with it.
Moronic idea! 
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07-17-2018, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Statistics is not about one individual. Instead a "population"
Do you remember how many here bought into Trump's birth certificate bull? Just imagine a bunch of "Toms" in those five or so "swung" states.
Enough orangutans would easily "swing" it
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Sorry, did not happen.
I don't know anyone who was "manipulated" or changed their mind because they were paying attention to social media.
As far as the birther thing goes, I never claimed one way or another, but as of now, well I am watching the same hysteria about "Russian collusion".
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