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05-03-2008, 01:54 AM
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$2 super-hi-5, cold ($2)
10
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$1 superfecta ($24)
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2 6 19
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2 5 6 7 8 9 16 13 19
$1 trifecta ($24)
10
2 16 19 20
2 6 7 8 9 16 19
2$ trifecta ( $18 )
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2 5 6 7 8 9 16 13 19
$3 exacta ($12)
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2 16 19 20
$1 trifecta/"saver" ...in the event BB's speed stays a sloppy trip ($24)
20
2 10 16 19
2 6 7 8 9 16 19
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That is all. Happy Derby Day, and
Be Well!
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05-03-2008, 01:59 AM
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Playing drunk
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 230
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$60 EX 6-2
$30 TRI 6-2-20
$10 SUPE 6-2-20-10
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05-03-2008, 03:04 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,138
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Kentucky Derby 05/03/2008
$1 Tri: 19 // 4,6,9,10,13,20 // 4,6,9,10,13,20 (1*6*5) [30.00]
$1 Tri: 4,6,9,10,13,20 // 19 // 4,6,9,10,13,20 [60.00]
$1 Tri: 4,6,9,10,13,20 // 4,6,9,10,13,20 // 19 [90.00]
$1 Sup: 20 // 9,10 // 4,6,13 // 19 [96.00]
$1 Sup: 20 // 6,13 // 10 // 19 [98.00]
$1 Sup: 20 // 4 // 9,10 // 19 [100.00]
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05-03-2008, 03:55 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Austin, TX
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$5 Exacta box 5,8,9,10,12 ($100)
good luck
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05-03-2008, 06:48 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 943
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$1 Tri
12,19/2,4,8,9,12,13,19/2,4,5,8,9,12,13,17,19,20 $96
$1 exb
19/12,13
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05-03-2008, 08:15 AM
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intus habes, quem poscis
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Brooklyn NY
Posts: 9,776
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$20 Exacta 10/9+12+19
$2 Tri Key 10/6+8+9+12+19
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05-03-2008, 08:31 AM
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Son O'War
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bettorthaneverstreet, Boston
Posts: 7,211
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$20 ex...9,10/9,10,20
$5 tri...9,10/9,10,20/9,10,20
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05-03-2008, 08:36 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: AUSTIN, TEXAS
Posts: 1,940
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#5.00 ex. box 5-6-9-19-20=$100.00
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05-03-2008, 09:41 AM
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Unreconstructed
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Appalachia
Posts: 6,646
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$12 win #14
$1 trifecta: 20 / 9-10-14-19 / 2-4-5-6-8-9-10-13-14-15-16-19 = $44
$1 trifecta: 10 / 9-14-19-20 / 2-4-5-6-8-9-13-14-15-16-19-20 = $44
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05-03-2008, 10:59 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,972
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Derby Picks
$1 ex 4,5,13/6,9,16,18 $12
$1 ex 1,9,10,14,1618/1,4,5,9,13,16,18,20 $52
$10 w,p,s 18 $30
$1 ex boxl 1,5,9 $6
totals $100
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05-03-2008, 11:46 AM
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Turf Economist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,313
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Laissez les bons temps rouler!
$1 Super Hi 5: 6,9,10 // 6,9,10 // 6,9,10 // 8,11,14,19 // 8,11,14,19 = 72
$1 Tri: 6,9,10 // 6,9,10 // 8,11,14,19 = 24
$1 Exacta Box: 6,11
$1 Exacta Box: 15,17
Good Luck to All Today... headed to Evangeline Downs for great afternoon of racing & beyond!
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Turf Economist since 1974
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05-03-2008, 11:53 AM
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Tbred owner
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Friday Street
Posts: 1,459
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$10 exacta 17 / 9-18-19-20 = $40
$3 exacta 9-18-19-20 / 17 = $12
$2 exacta 17 / 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-10-11-12-13-14-15-16 = $30
$1 exacta 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-10-11-12-13-14-15-16 / 17 = $15
$3 win #17 Cowboy Cal
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05-03-2008, 12:27 PM
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 115
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Derby
8 tri box 8-10-20
2 ex box 8-20
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05-03-2008, 12:33 PM
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Last One Standing in MI
Posts: 1,177
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I really have no clue this year as I do not see a standout:
$2 exactas:
$2 Exacta: 1,5,16 / 6,8,11,12,18,20 = 36
$2 Exacta: 6,8,11,12,18,20, / 1,5,16 = 36
$1 tri:
10,20 / 1,6,9,15 / 1,6,8,16 = $28
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05-03-2008, 12:37 PM
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#30
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 8
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2008 Derby
Usually the key to the Derby has been:
1. Pick a horse who has recent speed figures that are in the ballpark of the best of the competition.
2. Insist on value.
I use my standard mechanical contender-selection method in the Derby. I take the highest two of each horse’s last three speed figures and average them. That gives me a contender figure for each horse. (If there are only two races available in the pps, I average them. If there is only one race available, I use that as the number.) I then take the top five horses as my contenders. If anybody is tied for fifth, I include them. This is a bold contender-screening process that sometimes jumps up and bites me in a particular race. But in the long run it's worked.
I’m using Jim Cramer speed figures rather than Beyer speed figures. (Comparing my contender figures with previous years, it looks like we have a relatively weak field here.) So, in this year’s Derby, here are my five contenders:
Big Truck: 92.5 contender rating
Pyro: 89.5 contender rating
Smooth Air: 93.5 contender rating
Cowboy Cal: 89.5 contender rating
Big Brown: 97 contender rating
Here's my betting line:
Horse---------Fair Odds--------Bet Odds------ML Odds
Big Brow---------9/5-------------7/2----------3/1
Cowboy Cal-------4/1-------------8/1---------20/1
Smooth Air------ 7/1------------14/1---------20/1
Pyro-------------8/1------------17/1---------20/1
Big Truck -------8/1------------17/1---------50/1
Big Brown looks dominant by his pps and his contender rating, but it's unlikely I'll have him to win because he'll be bet down too low in the win pool. If you're only looking for bragging rights, he's got to be the horse. My sentimental favorite is Big Truck -- 50/1 odds always make me sentimental. I stuck Big Truck in there because I like his second and third races back. Looking at the video of his last race, the Blue Grass, it looks like the jock was water-skiing around the far turn in traffic, which eliminates a horse's chances in a tough prep race like that. Throw that race out, and he's definitely worth a shot at 50/1.
I’ll bet the overlays to win, box them in the exacta, and wheel them in the exacta top and bottom to the top two favorites. So, if the morning line odds are similar to the track odds, I’m likely to have my typical multiple longshot win bet on four horses: Cowboy Cal, Smooth Air, Pyro and Big Truck. Then I'll have what amounts to a five-horse exacta box on all five contenders, including Big Brown. (Not my typical betting strategy, but it's worked for me in the Derby.) Good luck.
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