Ben Carson Is Correct About Muslims Holding Public Office

[Tom]

Should we refuse to elect or appoint people to positions like this when their religion conflicts with the constitution?

Did she not take an oath that probably had the words "so help you God?" or some variation?

I think we already know about her religious convictions.
Put ass back in jail where it belongs, until she resign the job lied about doing to the best of her abilities. She can discuss her beliefs with Jesus when the time comes. Not the public who she lied about serving.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

I would guess a large portion of conservatives understand and agree with him. The real question is how many people understand just how bonkers he really is?

How come all the parents whose children he performed life saving brain surgery on didn't think he was too bonkers to open their child's skull and fiddle with their brains?

You guys are always trying to play the dumb/crazy card, no matter how smart or sane the Republican candidate happens to actually be.

Cases in point: Ben Carson and Ted Cruz.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by Tom

Did she not take an oath that probably had the words "so help you God?" or some variation?

I think we already know about her religious convictions.
Put ass back in jail where it belongs, until she resign the job lied about doing to the best of her abilities. She can discuss her beliefs with Jesus when the time comes. Not the public who she lied about serving.

I agree that she is not suited to that job "anymore".

Personally, I am willing to do carve outs for people that are employed either privately or publicly when the rules change mid stream and the carve out won't impact the ability of the customer to get goods or services.

As long as all couples can get a license in a timely fashion, I don't see why her name has to be on it when the governor has already stated the licenses without her name are still legal.

But to my greater point, if the left can conclude that her religious beliefs make her unsuited to her job, why can't Carson conclude that someone that believes in Sharia Law that conflicts with the constitution is not suited to the presidency?

It's the same thing.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

How come all the parents whose children he performed life saving brain surgery on didn't think he was too bonkers to open their child's skull and fiddle with their brains?

You guys are always trying to play the dumb/crazy card, no matter how smart or sane the Republican candidate happens to actually be.

Cases in point: Ben Carson and Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz is not crazy, but he is a jerk. Rand Paul on the other hand is loony tunes.
Ben Carson is just in over his head. He has not enough experience dealing with the media and the public. But that does matter in his case because he will fade soon because no matter how much he plays to the base of the GOP, they are not yet ready to vote for black man to president. They may buy his books or pay to hear him speak, but they will not in any numbers vote for him any more than they voted for Herman Cain. They always find a reason to look else where. I think the base of the GOP just doesn't believe that a black man can embraces conservative values and he will turn out to be a liberal after he is elected. Watch you see it happen again.

[ebcorde]

also means you can't be a Muslim and fight for your country, not be allowed to be President. There are American Muslims right now undercover in the middle east. He owes them an apology

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

Ted Cruz is not crazy, but he is a jerk. Rand Paul on the other hand is loony tunes.
Ben Carson is just in over his head. He has not enough experience dealing with the media and the public. But that does matter in his case because he will fade soon because no matter how much he plays to the base of the GOP, they are not yet ready to vote for black man to president. They may buy his books or pay to hear him speak, but they will not in any numbers vote for him any more than they voted for Herman Cain. They always find a reason to look else where. I think the base of the GOP just doesn't believe that a black man can embraces conservative values and he will turn out to be a liberal after he is elected. Watch you see it happen again.

Total BS. Where do you get this stuff? I and every conservative I know (which is most im close to) don't give a damn what color someone's skin is or what sex they are - only that they're the most competent for the job. We've never been presented with a good black candidate. At one point we loved Powell until he showed himself to be liberal. We still love Rice and she'd be elected tomorrow if she ran. Liberals are the ones who care about sex and skin color. You voted in an incompetent for no reason than his skin color.

[chrisl]

Apology! That is the problem. Why should someone apologize for there beliefs and opinion. You do not like mine, Bummer..Move along

[Tom]

...the base of the GOP, they are not yet ready to vote for black man to president.

Very racist comment, Bobby.
Past your bedtime?

[Tom]

Personally, I am willing to do carve outs for people that are employed either privately or publicly when the rules change mid stream and the carve out won't impact the ability of the customer to get goods or services.

Privately, IF the employers thinks the employee is worthe the bother and expense.

Elected officials - never. Period. You execute your duties according to your oath or you step down.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by chrisl

Apology! That is the problem. Why should someone apologize for there beliefs and opinion. You do not like mine, Bummer..Move along

Especially when you are totally as right as Carson is here.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

How come all the parents whose children he performed life saving brain surgery on didn't think he was too bonkers to open their child's skull and fiddle with their brains?

You guys are always trying to play the dumb/crazy card, no matter how smart or sane the Republican candidate happens to actually be.

People may excel in one field and still be blind as a bat in others.

Carson, a noted creationist, said he believed the theory of evolution was encouraged by the devil.

I do not want a President who believes the devil is involved in the study of biology, or politics for that matter.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by Fager Fan

Total BS. Where do you get this stuff? I and every conservative I know (which is most im close to) don't give a damn what color someone's skin is or what sex they are - only that they're the most competent for the job. We've never been presented with a good black candidate. At one point we loved Powell until he showed himself to be liberal. We still love Rice and she'd be elected tomorrow if she ran. Liberals are the ones who care about sex and skin color. You voted in an incompetent for no reason than his skin color.

Proof is in the putting as they say. I have heard a lot of bad things come out of the mouths of conservatives about Rice to believe she could run as a republican and get the nomination. I never ever saw any love for Powell even when he was still a general by the right. Your post proves my point, the right always finds a reason not to vote for Black man often voting for a White man who is actually less conservative or down right unelectable. The cry is always if a good black man would just run.......... There is not a black man in the country who could pass the mustard with the GOP base.
You may not like what Obama has done, but he as gotten done more in his term than the last 3 GOP presidents did in theirs and that includes Reagan.
For all whooping and howling about Reagan that conservatives do, the only lasting things Reagan did is sign an immigration bill that put us in the mess we are in today and give aid to the Afghan rebels who showed their gratitude on 9/11. I doubt that anything Obama has done will turn out that badly.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

You may not like what Obama has done, but he as gotten done more in his term than the last 3 GOP presidents did in theirs and that includes Reagan.

Future generations will remember Obama for the legacy of debt that he has left them and that is about all.
He's mortgaged the nation's Great Grand-children's futures.

[Tom]

Bobby remembers Mussolini only for making the trains run on time.

[davew]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

Ben Carson is correct when he says that a Muslim has to say out right he that he puts the Constitution, the laws and duties of office over his religious beliefs. This is also true of Christians including the county clerk in Kentucky. An office holder may disagree with the law in regard to duties of his office personally and try change the laws, but until the laws are actually changed, they need to carry out their duties as proscribed by the current law.

I kind of agree with you, but Carson was talking about president. I feel many voted positions would not really matter (I would guess Carson would agree on many positions).

They changed the rules on the clerk after she was in the county clerk position. It would be similar if you were a truck driver and the rules changed so that whenever you saw someone hitchhiking, you had to stop and give them a ride, no matter how scary/threatening they looked.