attn toteboard charters/handicappers

[46zilzal]

With the "pulses" coming in from other places across the country, this method cannot hold the answers that it once did. Up on the simulcast control room, I see how these pulses are added to the pools and they are uneven to say the least.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

With the "pulses" coming in from other places across the country, this method cannot hold the answers that it once did. Up on the simulcast control room, I see how these pulses are added to the pools and they are uneven to say the least.

On what basis can you make such a statement? Did you used to be a toteboard handicapper? Did you used to get "answers" from the tote, and now those answers don't appear anymore?

These generalized statements from a non-expert aren't very helpful. Obviously, the tote holds answers for SOME FOLKS, just not you. I would think that uneven "pulses" would actually tell you MORE than an even stream of pulses....

[Tape Reader]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

With the "pulses" coming in from other places across the country, this method cannot hold the answers that it once did. Up on the simulcast control room, I see how these pulses are added to the pools and they are uneven to say the least.

IMO computers offer the tote board reader advantages that he only dreamed about in the past. I can now spend my time handicaping the tote board without being a slave to the chart paper.

[thespaah]

i do it... of course I use the tote as a supplement to handicapping from the PP's.. I check the exacta probables for anomolies...I look to see if longer shots are dominating the exacta probs..That's a sure sign that the horse with higer odds is a worth a play..some hanicappers recommend betting these exacta underalys to win..I do that sometimes.I will also include them in my exotics as well.

Another thing is if you can be patient and wait until near post time to bet, do so..late money coming in from wise guys and internet players is usually dead giveaway that a particular horse is live..I never bet more than 5 mins to post and usually I wait until 1 or 2 mins to post...Sometimes i get burned by betting the tote. But more often than not I can get pretty good info by watching the numbers..

[thespaah]

yeah really..the ML guy is just the person the track hired to render an opinion of how a horse matches up against the others the racing secreatry writes the race for.

The track handicapper is a public handicapper just like th guys in the newspaper or the various other PP publications..

If I see a say 5/2 ML fav being ignored to say 4 or 5-1. I will include that horse in my wagers.But only if that horse looks good on paper..But in certain cases I will go with the public and toss. For example.. No way am I betting a 4/5 shot in a $15k maiden claimer..That's a terrible favorite..If by chance that horse beats me, so be it.
The bottom line is while I don't try to play beat the favorite on every race, I view wagering on horses as a search for value. A legit favorite is a legit favorite and I will use them. However if my ROI is going ot be so crummy as in the example above I will indeed look elsewhere in the field for a value play..I will simply cut back on my investment for that race race..

[thespaah]

If I were in your shoes I would tell them to go take their eltitist, arrogant naysaying and piss up a tree..This is a forum. A free exchenge of ideas and opinions..

[thespaah]

I never let that happen..When I use the tote to help out I don't eliminate one selection on paper and replace it with a "tote live" horse. I just add the selection from the tote observation to my existing plays.

[eqitec]

See the attached for the extent to which I watch the board within my software. This is an actual race from today. I've left the name of the track and the horses out so anyone interested can try to pick the top 3 from the board. (the projected odds line is my own). After a couple of days I'll post the name of the track and the top 3 finishers.

[ryesteve]

Originally Posted by eqitec

See the attached

You have some strange ML figures there...

[JPinMaryland]

Originally Posted by ryesteve

Some people really enjoy my analogies, so here's another one: this is like complaining that people give you a hard time when you tell them you have video of the loch ness monster, when you haven't shown them any footage yet.

I can understand that, I gave up posting my Nessie videos a long time ago.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by eqitec

See the attached for the extent to which I watch the board within my software. This is an actual race from today. I've left the name of the track and the horses out so anyone interested can try to pick the top 3 from the board. (the projected odds line is my own). After a couple of days I'll post the name of the track and the top 3 finishers.

I'll play: 7,12,13 arae the 'live' horses.

[ernie simons]

Originally Posted by eqitec

See the attached for the extent to which I watch the board within my software. This is an actual race from today. I've left the name of the track and the horses out so anyone interested can try to pick the top 3 from the board. (the projected odds line is my own). After a couple of days I'll post the name of the track and the top 3 finishers.

Looks like you're missing a few tote ticks. What happened to the 5 minutes between 15 & 10 mtp? Did none of these odds change in that 5 minutes?
Assuming there are 13 horses running, it must be a route. And judging by the odds on the board, not much class running. And since you have ticks missing from the tote, I'm guessing none of these "live" horses finished on top. My guess is all long shots itm. And your point is watching the tote board is folly??

[JPinMaryland]

$5 exacta: box 13/9

[eqitec]

The toteboard chart I displayed was from the 7th race at Kempton (UK) on Saturday. Which explains the unusual morning lines.
For those who noticed no odds changes, that's because I don't always get the changes for every interval. In which case I just copy the odds from the previous interval point and go on to the next one.
For those who took a shot, the race finish was 13-12. The $1 exacta paid $77. This was a 2 mile race, and the winner got 23 lbs from the favorite. Funny that it's name was "Featherlite".
In my opinion, following the toteboard action is both very interesting and essential, especially for spotting horses to include in the exotics. Most of my good exotic scores have come from a mixture of good handicapping and inclusion of longshots which got unexplainable betting action.

[JPinMaryland]

Dammit I knew I shouldnt have gone vertical!