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[DirtTrack]

Originally Posted by BillW

How in hell do you explain the sale of the racing form? Is that data impossible to make money with? Your logic is illogical .

You guys sure are good at putting words in peoples mouths.
Never said you could not make money with handicapping software
May have not worded it correctly but was trying to point out that it will take a lot more than some "magic software" to make a consistent winner at the track.

DRF and other form publications provide facts of past performances not an evaluated computation of who they think will win.
Well, I guess they do give selections as too but I generally only download the PP's

[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by DirtTrack

Nope
Otherwise I would either call it good or lousy
To be fair I call it suspect because that is what it is to me at this point

And it is suspect because....

[DirtTrack]

So does anyones magic software:
Give an evaluation of the paddock?
Give an evaluation of the post parade?
Let you know when a horse is groomed for the winners circle?
Let you know that owner of horse #1 is betting on horse #4?
Let you know that trainer of horse #3 is betting on horse #2?
Let you know the track bias today is completely different than yesterday after 3 races?
Let you know horse #5 is a speed demon that has not been able to get out of the gate?
Let you know #3 hated polytrack and is back on dirt?
Tell you it has a gut feeling on horse for no reason before it wins?
Indicate Curlin had a rough trip in the Derby and should win the Preakness?

Doubtful - which backs my point that computers are not able to apply the logic needed for consistent success at the track.

Guarantee to refund all loosing $$$ on bets it does not pick correctly?

While I have not tried the jerks software that calls me an idiot I have tried others and was fustrated after losing when I could have won by playing horses the way I was taught to handicap and look for things at the track to go on.

I understand that some here have a vested interest in the products they sell being doubted for reasons pointed out but to start insulting someone for giving their opinion and pointing out simple truths about racing really shows no class.
Schwarts or whatever his name is showed he is a $2 maiden claimer turning to personal insults instead of trying to truly promote his product.
While I would not have tried it out I may have listed it on some of the sites I manage or suggested it to some fellow gamblers that like to try such gimmicks.

[cj]

Why do I have the feeling we are dealing with both halves of an entry?

[DirtTrack]

Originally Posted by ranchwest

And it is suspect because....

Because I have seen no evidence that it is any good
Have not seen evidence that is is bad either
As explained earlier this leaves it as suspect to me especially since it is for sell

sus·pect (sə-spěkt') Pronunciation Key
v. sus·pect·ed, sus·pect·ing, sus·pects

v. tr.

1. To surmise to be true or probable; imagine: I suspect they are very disappointed.
2. To have doubts about; distrust: I suspect his motives.

[Pace Cap'n]

Re: Alexander

Does anyone find it ironic that someone who is unable to use the "Quote" feature is commenting on computers?

[alexander99]

Pace,


Yes..i am not exactly a computer expert.

When i do comment about computers, and programs...

they are not exactly positive comments.

I am not a huge fan.


I would welcome any challenge from these so called "experts"

using their sophisticated Humpty Dumpty handicapping programs.

[46zilzal]

all of those extraneous factors are irrelevant to the horse but are other people's evaluation of the chances....Around the backstretch I hear this same malarkey all the time......

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by DirtTrack

So does anyones magic software:
Let you know that owner of horse #1 is betting on horse #4?
Let you know that trainer of horse #3 is betting on horse #2?
.

NO. You are absolutely right.
But I'm not going to marry a teller to get the info on the 8 or 10 owners in and 8 or 10 trainers in every race.
And if a trainer or an owner, at our oval, shows me their pre-race ticket,
I'm looking for another runner to win. Those birds are the absolute worst bettors at our bull ring. The worst.

[alexander99]

The only way to prove my point,


would be creating an offer like the following:

Long-term 25% + R.O.I. (in reality can hit 40% +)

This is guaranteed.

Of course, if i was selling my selections..would charge a HUGE fee.

If the 25% was not achieved..there would be a legal contract in place, where all fees would be returned plus an additional 10%.

Why haven't others already done this?

So many clowns on here hawking their rediculous systems...

Well- how about standing behing your systems?

All these "experts" are ....experts of MARKETING, not handicapping.

I am very surprised people are naive, and gullible enough..to pay money for such garbage.

[GaryG]

ROTFLMAO.....

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by alexander99

All these "experts" are ....experts of MARKETING, not handicapping.

I am very surprised people are naive, and gullible enough..to pay money for such garbage.

Hmm? Joe Takach markets. No?

[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by alexander99

The only way to prove my point,


would be creating an offer like the following:

Long-term 25% + R.O.I. (in reality can hit 40% +)

This is guaranteed.

Of course, if i was selling my selections..would charge a HUGE fee.

If the 25% was not achieved..there would be a legal contract in place, where all fees would be returned plus an additional 10%.

Why haven't others already done this?

So many clowns on here hawking their rediculous systems...

Well- how about standing behing your systems?

All these "experts" are ....experts of MARKETING, not handicapping.

I am very surprised people are naive, and gullible enough..to pay money for such garbage.

And you are standing behind your claims by....

[ranchwest]

Originally Posted by DirtTrack

Because I have seen no evidence that it is any good
Have not seen evidence that is is bad either
As explained earlier this leaves it as suspect to me especially since it is for sell

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But you've still not given a REASON why it should be SUSPECT.

Ford sells a Mercury automobile. Just because it is for sale doesn't make me feel it is suspect. Of course, I could use your logic. If it rides so well, why would they sell it to me?

[sjk]

Very few people here are selling anything and many of those that are have limited the number of customers and new buyers are not accepted.

If your objective is to flame the marketers you are probably addressing the wrong crowd.