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03-11-2018, 12:40 AM
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Future pool 3
Anybody play anything? I haven't seen anything I really like so far. I played a few to win and a crazy exacta box throwing the Euros in, even though they have never won
Some people never learn
https://www.kentuckyderby.com/wager/...r/derby-pool-3
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03-11-2018, 01:03 AM
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I like using the All Others option for exacta boxes. I covered Good Magic, Solomini, and McKinzie previously. I made sure to tackle Bolt this time. Also played the new Oaks/Derby double. All Others/Bolt @ 80-1
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03-11-2018, 09:10 AM
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Last edited by Stoleitbreezing; 03-11-2018 at 09:14 AM.
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03-11-2018, 10:32 AM
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I have Bolt covered in pool 1 with all others boxed as well as street sense/tapit/medaglia sires boxed - catholic boy,free drop, and solomini boxed with all others in pool 2 and took a wild stab yesterday in the oaks/derby double using 11,12,18 with 2,3,8. Yesterday the DD probables ranged from $42 to $4900. I will be going back to the Oaks today because I want to use Paved a little as long as she is still sitting around 20/1 to 30/1. She has been running turf races but for the price I am hoping she will get a dirt race or 2 under her belt and make the gate. Less than 20-1 I may just wait until May and see if she shows up.
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03-11-2018, 10:58 AM
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Why is Bolt Doro, as of this writing, 5-1 and Mckenzie, who just beat him, 8-1?
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03-11-2018, 11:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennie
I have Bolt covered in pool 1 with all others boxed as well as street sense/tapit/medaglia sires boxed - catholic boy,free drop, and solomini boxed with all others in pool 2 and took a wild stab yesterday in the oaks/derby double using 11,12,18 with 2,3,8. Yesterday the DD probables ranged from $42 to $4900. I will be going back to the Oaks today because I want to use Paved a little as long as she is still sitting around 20/1 to 30/1. She has been running turf races but for the price I am hoping she will get a dirt race or 2 under her belt and make the gate. Less than 20-1 I may just wait until May and see if she shows up.
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I have $20 win on All. $10 win on 8, 9,16. Exacta box 3,8,9,16,23,24.
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03-11-2018, 01:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
Why is Bolt Doro, as of this writing, 5-1 and Mckenzie, who just beat him, 8-1?
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It was an 8.5F race and had it been longer Bolt would have crossed the line first regardless of the interference. I like both horses but didn’t expect Bolt to be that primed after the layoff and a couple training hiccups. The final raw time was a bit slow but I will ignore given track condition. The Equibase figure was highest since Equibase started using them in 1992. It was 10 points higher than Chrome. The last half panel was around 6.5 seconds which is solid. That race reminded me a little of the Sunday Silence and Easy Goer rivalry.
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03-11-2018, 02:46 PM
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I was more impressed with McKenzie. Seemed that there was quite a lot of whipping going on from Castellano to Bolt......I was hoping Bolt would win the SA Derby, but now I probably won't bet him in that. Way too much effort in this race, IMHO.
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03-11-2018, 03:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clicknow
...Seemed that there was quite a lot of whipping going on from Castellano to Bolt...
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Point taken but keep in mind McKinzie pretty much had a dream trip while Bolt was boxed in around the 6F pole then had to make his move wide. That was the type of move the wins the Derby.
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03-11-2018, 05:09 PM
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Justify
The last 90 min of pool 3 are being dominated by "Justify" -
Just after his allowance win in race 5 at Santa Anita, he went from 11/1 ($12.887 bet) now down to 7/1 ($20,700 bet) -
That of course is putting some value back into the rest of the field (as an example, Bolt is up from 5/1 to now 6/1) -
Should be an interesting hour or so to the end.
Last edited by TheGarMan; 03-11-2018 at 05:11 PM.
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03-11-2018, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGarMan
The last 90 min of pool 3 are being dominated by "Justify" -
Just after his allowance win in race 5 at Santa Anita, he went from 11/1 ($12.887 bet) now down to 7/1 ($20,700 bet) -
That of course is putting some value back into the rest of the field (as an example, Bolt is up from 5/1 to now 6/1) -
Should be an interesting hour or so to the end.
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Interesting, Justify finishes at 6-1, Bolt goes up to 7-1. McKinzie at 9-1.
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03-11-2018, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f2tornado
It was an 8.5F race and had it been longer Bolt would have crossed the line first regardless of the interference. I like both horses but didn’t expect Bolt to be that primed after the layoff and a couple training hiccups. The final raw time was a bit slow but I will ignore given track condition. The Equibase figure was highest since Equibase started using them in 1992. It was 10 points higher than Chrome. The last half panel was around 6.5 seconds which is solid. That race reminded me a little of the Sunday Silence and Easy Goer rivalry.
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He had the whole stretch to get by him and couldn't. Appears Mckenzie was pulling away at the end
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03-11-2018, 07:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGarMan
The last 90 min of pool 3 are being dominated by "Justify" -
Just after his allowance win in race 5 at Santa Anita, he went from 11/1 ($12.887 bet) now down to 7/1 ($20,700 bet) -
That of course is putting some value back into the rest of the field (as an example, Bolt is up from 5/1 to now 6/1) -
Should be an interesting hour or so to the end.
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History be damned!
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03-11-2018, 08:26 PM
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Here are the final Pool 3 prices:
Horse Morning Line Final Odds
1. Audible 8-1 13-1
2. Avery Island 30-1 29-1
3. Bolt d'Oro 6-1 7-1
4. Bravazo 30-1 40-1
5. Catholic Boy 30-1 21-1
6. Combatant 50-1 57-1
7. Flameaway 30-1 31-1
8. Free Drop Billy 15-1 44-1
9. Gold Town 30-1 52-1
10. Good Magic 15-1 11-1
11. Instilled Regard 30-1 41-1
12. Justify 15-1 6-1
13. Kanthaka 20-1 57-1
14. Magnum Moon 30-1 25-1
15. McKinzie 8-1 9-1
16. Mendelssohn 28-1 28-1
17. My Boy Jack 30-1 31-1
18. Noble Indy 50-1 60-1
19. Promises Fulfilled 8-1 24-1
20. Solomini 15-1 17-1
21. Sporting Chance 30-1 39-1
22. Strike Power 15-1 56-1
23. Vino Rosso 50-1 39-1
24. All Others 6-1 9-2
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03-12-2018, 10:48 AM
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“All Other 3-Year-Olds” has closed as the March future pool favorite in 13 of the last 16 years. The three exceptions were Mohaymen (7-2 in 2016), Uncle Mo (3-1 in 2011) and Pyro (4-1 in 2018). None won the Kentucky Derby.
Justify, who won his seven-furlong career debut on Feb. 18, is attempting to buck one of the last so-called Derby “rules” that is rarely challenged. Apollo, who won the 1882 Kentucky Derby, is the only Kentucky Derby winner to win the “Run for the Roses” without racing as a 2-year-old. The record of horses in the Derby without a race at 2 since 1937 is 61-0-3-5. During that span, the only horses to finish in the Derby Top 3 without racing at 2 were runner-ups Coaltown (1948), Strodes Creek (1994) and Bodemeister(2012) and third-place finishers Hampden (1946), Agitate (1974), Reinvested (1982), Curlin (2007) and Battle of Midway (2017).
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