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05-07-2016, 04:00 PM
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#181
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 5
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Guess he was sitting on a good one. Wish the pools were this big at monmouth and gulfstream
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05-07-2016, 04:33 PM
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#182
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 403
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Navoro
just won the 10th at CD at 13-1 (JUICE!!!!!)
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05-07-2016, 04:35 PM
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#183
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,828
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Greatest trainer in the history of American Turf.
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05-07-2016, 04:36 PM
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#184
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 5
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next year. first off the claim derby winner
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05-07-2016, 04:36 PM
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#185
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Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 2,053
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THE MEDICINE IS STRONG THERE BOY!.... at least i had the sense to back up my best bet of the day with him and bet w/p ... i simply cant beat that gas.... i feel cheated
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05-07-2016, 04:38 PM
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#186
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,642
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I had him in the DerbyWars contest...didn't even look at the trainer, let alone handicap him...
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05-07-2016, 04:38 PM
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#187
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,828
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I had him in the DerbyWars contest...didn't even look at the trainer...
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He burned me once, not twice
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05-07-2016, 04:44 PM
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#188
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 14,569
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What are the odds on a positive test?
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05-07-2016, 04:47 PM
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#189
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,642
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Zero
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05-07-2016, 08:13 PM
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#190
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Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: near Philadelphia
Posts: 4,560
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horses4courses
What are the odds on a positive test?
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An old trainer told me years ago if an outfit was going to 'take a shot' to do so on Derby Day, as anything goes. Taking a 'shot' --as he meant it-- was using something not often used, if you catch my drift.
Nowadays certain trainers take a shot, Every Day, sad to say.
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05-07-2016, 11:51 PM
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#191
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 217
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Zero
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Because they aren't on something, or is it something that doesn't get tested? We all "know" this guy isn't on the up and up. He was "denied" stalls at Tampa before. Why do we as betters continue to play this game? Throw pace handicapping out the window when it comes to these super trainers because the faster the pace the better when their horses are on the front end. These super trainers are starting to get bigger balls by the minute and it is starting to creep into the Graded and "Traditional" races. I don't know if the powers that be are going to stand for that, then again I don't know if anyone cares anymore. The money grab in this country has become ridiculous.
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05-08-2016, 12:09 AM
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#192
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Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 25,607
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceMasterT
Because they aren't on something, or is it something that doesn't get tested? We all "know" this guy isn't on the up and up. He was "denied" stalls at Tampa before. Why do we as betters continue to play this game? Throw pace handicapping out the window when it comes to these super trainers because the faster the pace the better when their horses are on the front end. These super trainers are starting to get bigger balls by the minute and it is starting to creep into the Graded and "Traditional" races. I don't know if the powers that be are going to stand for that, then again I don't know if anyone cares anymore. The money grab in this country has become ridiculous.
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It's easy money, it's a "loophole" where you can steal money and if you're caught there's zero jail time, no police record, etc.
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05-08-2016, 02:09 AM
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#193
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longshot kick de bucket
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: niagara falls ont.
Posts: 1,218
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I wonder why the other trainers don't take a stand.....scratch every time one of these guys have an entry.
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let the fools have their tar tar sauce.
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05-08-2016, 05:17 AM
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#194
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Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 25,607
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Quote:
Originally Posted by appistappis
I wonder why the other trainers don't take a stand.....scratch every time one of these guys have an entry.
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I agree, if you run against him, you're accepting and condoning it. Just tell the race secretary that if he's in the race, I'm not running.
Good suggestion.
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05-08-2016, 12:34 PM
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#195
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dark Side of the Moon
Posts: 5,870
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I wont be betting races where he has a horse, might stab on his longshots as well.
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